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Now, before I start this thread, this is not a jab at RifleDude.  Everyone knows I love my Wby. calibers.  Please read this article by Layne Simpson from Shooting Times http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammunition/ST257weatherbymagnum _031706/ and give me your feedback as what scope you would choose for this caliber and why.  I only own one Wby. 257 Magnum and want a new scope and would appreciate any input.  Now, also realize, I will consider some of the nose bleeders, but want some ideas and input on magnification, features, objective size, etc.  If you guys have not had a chance to shot one, it is awesomely accurate without much recoil.  I have my own ideas of course, but it never hurts to hear those of others.  Thanks.
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Dolphin,

 

With a .257 Wby Mag, I assume it's not going to be a short range gun.  I've been fooling with longer range scopes lately and have decided on 4.5-14 as the best range.  Don't need 3X and anything over 14X is pretty much unusable for hunting.  I'd go with either a Conquest 4.5-14X44 ZRFor a Leupold VX L 4.5-14X50 B&C.  I'd base my decision on the reticle and AO; the B&C is far superior to the Zeiss ZRF, but the Zeiss has Side Focus.  If that's not important, I'd probably go with the VX L 4.5-14X50 Duplex and save a little money.

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Dolphin - I've owned and shot many Weatherby rifles, and I certainly agree you don't need 3x for a .257.

I like the 4.5-14 suggestion...I think it is perfect for that cartridge/rifle combo.

How much do you want to spend?
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I would prefer to keep it under 500.  I have purchased 1 Tikka, known to my wife and under the radar 2 Savages (.308 and a 7mm-08) and a Wby. Vanguard 300Wby. Mag., so I want to keep the cost down a bit.  I can hide but so much money I spend, if you know what I mean. 
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I would try a Burris Signature Select 4-16x44mm with a Ballistic Plex reticle. The objective diameter lets you use medium height rings and the 16x might come in handy if you ever want to use your .257 Wby for varmints, for which it is an exceptional performer.

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Hello Dolphin

 

I would recommend the Signature Select 4-16x44 with the ballistic mil-dot.

I spent a little time with this scope and feel it is a great performer with alot

of features for the price.

http://www.burrisoptics.com/pdf/BALLMIL.pdf

 

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Dolphin........ I know what you mean about the wife....... that adds a little excitment to the purchase!  

 

I usually tell her I traded something.  A bit of advice for you younger guys........ don't EVER give her sh*t about the number of shoes she has........ you can always use that as leverage later on if she complains about the number of guns you have!!!

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I'd get the Leupold VX III 4.5-14X40 at $500 over the Signature Select.  It's 2.5 inches shorter and weighs half a pound less and has 1/2" more eye relief.
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I can't photo chop it and make it say "scope". 

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SVD, please stop posting that pic, your killing me. OTOH, if your selling it........
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Thanks Roy, last time I post this rifle, it is my only small to medium game hunting rifle. This pic shows  my first scope choice with this rifle, I later upgraded with a couple of different scopes for the low light glass.

 

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SVD666:

I agree with Roy.

That stick is beautiful!!

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Thanks Cheap, I like this rifle alot. This is my first and is going to most likely be my only hunting rifle in a small caliber. I want to go to Africa some day, so if I ever buy another hunting gun it is going to be a hard kicker.

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I think you should sell any "small caliber" rifle you own and concentrate on hunting in Africa from this point forward. I will send you my FFL info.
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Just 4 kicks and me having so many medium sized "deer rifles" I got a elite 4200 6-24 side focus for my WBY Super Big Game Master 257 WBY. It is a really neat scope about the same size as my 3-9's. I know it's a little much for the caliber but it sure looks and fits good.
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Thats almost exactly what I had in mind, except without the side focus.
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Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

I think you should sell any "small caliber" rifle you own and concentrate on hunting in Africa from this point forward. I will send you my FFL info.

 

SVD, I'll throw in a Chili's giftcard with my FFL info. Also, I think that Signature would be real nice on that Weatherby. It looks like any of the flavors mentioned in the 4-14 range would be the way to go.

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Just curious why wouldn't you want the side focus?
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If you want to stay under 500 and want higher powered optics the Nikon monarch on sale now at SWFA in the 6 X 20 is a good scope. I have one on my 243 WSSM and I am very happy with it. There is a comparison of scopes at

www.savageshooters.com  It is noted that the Bushnell had a 40 mm objective vs the 50 on the Leupold and Nikon. I have the same Leupold. All three are good scopes. I have used Leupold`s factory service in the past and it is great but it is more money.

 

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[QUOTE=miket_81]Just curious why wouldn't you want the side focus?[/QUOTE

Just to save a little cash.  It would be nice, but the savings would be nice also.  I like the idea of that scope, or any 6+ power, as I do not think I would use any power less than this.  Thinking about it, I really rarely use less than that on any rifle I have.  I will keep that in mind on all purchases.

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Originally posted by Duce Duce wrote:

If you want to stay under 500 and want higher powered optics the Nikon monarch on sale now at SWFA in the 6 X 20 is a good scope. I have one on my 243 WSSM and I am very happy with it. There is a comparison of scopes at

www.savageshooters.com  It is noted that the Bushnell had a 40 mm objective vs the 50 on the Leupold and Nikon. I have the same Leupold. All three are good scopes. I have used Leupold`s factory service in the past and it is great but it is more money.

 

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Interesting article and more of what I would like to see by others, testing and comparing scopes.  However, I would like to see it stepped up to a more scientific level, to include not only more testing, but double blind testing.  Then follow this up, with actual use testing at the bench and in the field, which can be done blind.  The Monarch UCC, despite not being made by Nikon, which disappoints me, since they are known for their optics, has gotten my attention.
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Dolphin:

What do mean the Monarch's not made by Nikon??

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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

Originally posted by Duce Duce wrote:

If you want to stay under 500 and want higher powered optics the Nikon monarch on sale now at SWFA in the 6 X 20 is a good scope. I have one on my 243 WSSM and I am very happy with it. There is a comparison of scopes at

www.savageshooters.com  It is noted that the Bushnell had a 40 mm objective vs the 50 on the Leupold and Nikon. I have the same Leupold. All three are good scopes. I have used Leupold`s factory service in the past and it is great but it is more money.

 

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Interesting article and more of what I would like to see by others, testing and comparing scopes.  However, I would like to see it stepped up to a more scientific level, to include not only more testing, but double blind testing.  Then follow this up, with actual use testing at the bench and in the field, which can be done blind.  The Monarch UCC, despite not being made by Nikon, which disappoints me, since they are known for their optics, has gotten my attention.

 

IMO that scope article from Savageshooters is not a reliable source of info.

 

http://www.opticstalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5077&KW=sa vage+shooters

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The Nikon Monarch that I have says made in Japan on it and on the box, if Nikon did not make it do you know who did? It is still an excelent scope very clear and bright.

 

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Manufacture location depends on when the scope was made. If it is approx. 10 yrs. old or more, they were made in Japan.
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