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I'm getting ready to scope a new rifle and these are the two scopes I'm focusing on.
 
I own VX-II & the "older" VX-III scopes...I know the the difference in features between the two scopes, but what I can't decide is, as far as performance and optical clarity are concerned, is the new VX-3 worth that much more than a VX-II?
 
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The new VX-3 is the best value as far as what you're getting for your money under the Leupold name, but that is just my opinion. With the step up into the Twilight lens System that is a pretty big step up over the VX-II.
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I like the VX-3 series.  Optically, they aren't far behind the Conquest.

I thought the Vx-II series was mediocre, at best, and I owned several.
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I believe the VX-3 is quite a bit better than the VX-II. I have used both and I feel the VX-3 is a great scope. I think there are a few scopes that are on par with the VX-3 for less money: Monarch and Elite, but the warranty and being made in the USA means alot to me. I've got Monarchs, Elite 4200's, VX-3, and Conquest. The Conquest is the best optically, but the others are not far behind. I rate the VX-3 just above the Monarch and just below the 4200. There is just a since of confidence and assurance when you have a Leupy scope on your rifle. Get the VX-3
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I agree with Chris & Matt. 
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Originally posted by travis13 travis13 wrote:

I believe the VX-3 is quite a bit better than the VX-II. I have used both and I feel the VX-3 is a great scope. I think there are a few scopes that are on par with the VX-3 for less money: Monarch and Elite, but the warranty and being made in the USA means alot to me. I've got Monarchs, Elite 4200's, VX-3, and Conquest. The Conquest is the best optically, but the others are not far behind. I rate the VX-3 just above the Monarch and just below the 4200. There is just a since of confidence and assurance when you have a Leupy scope on your rifle. Get the VX-3
 
 
Guess I was wrong.  _EDIT
 
Edit again, I was right
iI hope that doens't mean to much cause they are only assembled in teh US, not made.  Parts still  made somewhere else
 
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Actually all the gold ring scopes are made in the US parts an all.  THey have a pretty neat video on their site about that.

I have an FX2 4x and will say the glass is pretty sub par IMO, not even comparable to my 4200, Sightron big sky, Trijicon scopes.  Honestly my Bushnell Legend looks better to me.   I don't have a VX3 but from what everyone says they are much better. 


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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

Actually all the gold ring scopes are made in the US parts an all.  THey have a pretty neat video on their site about that.

I have an FX2 4x and will say the glass is pretty sub par IMO, not even comparable to my 4200, Sightron big sky, Trijicon scopes.  Honestly my Bushnell Legend looks better to me.   I don't have a VX3 but from what everyone says they are much better. 
 
Well i learned soemthing new.  thanks ST
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I guess the glass is imported, but they can't really help that one.
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Well see I was saying if it says made in the us is should be 100% made in US, not the main part somewhere else. 
 
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Buy the VX3 it is well worth the difference, a better question to ask is do I buy VX3 or Zeiss Conquest because if the price is anywhere close the Zeiss it the better scope.
 
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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

Buy the VX3 it is well worth the difference, a better question to ask is do I buy VX3 or Zeiss Conquest because if the price is anywhere close the Zeiss it the better scope.
 
 
Yeah, this is a whole other issue.
 
IIRC, the Conquests are assembled in the US...but I really like the Leupold's warranty, MOST parts and assembly here and the warranties are second to none. I've put their warranty and customer service to use on a couple different occasions and they were great.
 
One of the main reasons the Conquest isn't in the running is it's almost 4oz heavier than the Leupold and I'm trying my best to keep the weight down on this rifle.
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I can't say one way or the other WRT a Bushnell Elite by my Leupold VX-3 (8.5-20x50) is a better scope than my Nikon Monarch (6-24x50), especially above 18x where some slight hazing takes effect.  It's no bad but it is noticable.  Below that they are both pretty equal although I would like to do a light transmission check one of these days.
 
As far as the Bushnell, I've looked thru one Elite 6500 w/o the benefit of any comparisions but it too started looking just a tad hazy above 12x (IIRC).  I did look thru a Bausch & Lomb 4-16x40 earlier this year and would have picked it up if the timing was better.  Optically it looked crisp thru the entire zoom range.
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Originally posted by Stud Duck Stud Duck wrote:

 
Yeah, this is a whole other issue.
 
IIRC, the Conquests are assembled in the US...but I really like the Leupold's warranty, MOST parts and assembly here and the warranties are second to none. I've put their warranty and customer service to use on a couple different occasions and they were great.
 
One of the main reasons the Conquest isn't in the running is it's almost 4oz heavier than the Leupold and I'm trying my best to keep the weight down on this rifle.
 
Do you know how little 4oz's is?  compared to the better glass and value of the Conquest its a no brainer in my opinion.
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The VX3 now competes pretty well with the other scopes in its price range. I also have great faith in leupold and one sits on all my rifles above .300.  The only VXII that I'm really am fond of is
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Originally posted by Stud Duck Stud Duck wrote:

 
Yeah, this is a whole other issue.
 
IIRC, the Conquests are assembled in the US...but I really like the Leupold's warranty, MOST parts and assembly here and the warranties are second to none. I've put their warranty and customer service to use on a couple different occasions and they were great.
 
One of the main reasons the Conquest isn't in the running is it's almost 4oz heavier than the Leupold and I'm trying my best to keep the weight down on this rifle.
 
Do you know how little 4oz's is?  compared to the better glass and value of the Conquest its a no brainer in my opinion.
Maybe it's me, but I get a little perplexed when I see references to how many ounces this scope A is lighter/heaver than scope B.  For me, if a few ounces were a concern I'd try and loose it else where, but not in the optics. 
 
Am I overlooking something?
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I totally follow what you're saying.  for a quarter of a pound, a superior scope should be of much higher priority.
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of 4oz is such a huge deal, eat an extra bowl of wheaties the morning of the hunt. good glass is heavy
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i picked up a new VX3 3.5-10x40 CDS for 450$ shipped, which isnt much more than a 3-9x40 conquest and has the CDS option..

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I have a VXII Ultralight, a 2.5x8 VX-3 and a 3x9 Conquest. The VX-II is noticeably inferior to the other two, and cannot be considered in the same class. I find the Conquest marginally better optically, in particular on the objective's edges. I find the VX-3 better in ergonomics, compactness, weight, and mechanicals, and slightly inferior in eyebox. All in all, they are very close in my eyes.

I totally do not believe that scopes should only be compared through their optics. They are hunting tools. Their compactness and weight (going through the brush, handiness, carry ease, balance), mechanicals, ergonomics, robustness, warranty, eyebox and optics are all important. If optics were the sole consideration, we would all be buying 35oz, 56mm bell scopes.

I consider the VX-3 and excellent choice, for me slightly better overall than the Conquest, although marginally inferior in optics performance. I would also consider the Sightron SII Big Sky, and the new Minox line as possibilities, along with the ones mentioned above thread.
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Originally posted by WestOfPecos WestOfPecos wrote:

I have a VXII Ultralight, a 2.5x8 VX-3 and a 3x9 Conquest. The VX-II is noticeably inferior to the other two, and cannot be considered in the same class. I find the Conquest marginally better optically, in particular on the objective's edges. I find the VX-3 better in ergonomics, compactness, weight, and mechanicals, and slightly inferior in eyebox. All in all, they are very close in my eyes.

I totally do not believe that scopes should only be compared through their optics. They are hunting tools. Their compactness and weight (going through the brush, handiness, carry ease, balance), mechanicals, ergonomics, robustness, warranty, eyebox and optics are all important. If optics were the sole consideration, we would all be buying 35oz, 56mm bell scopes.

I consider the VX-3 and excellent choice, for me slightly better overall than the Conquest, although marginally inferior in optics performance. I would also consider the Sightron SII Big Sky, and the new Minox line as possibilities, along with the ones mentioned above thread.
 
Excellent post, especially your insight in the second paragraph...well put.
 
I guess I should've explained a bit more why I was fussing over 4oz, When it comes to hunting, I take a "minimalist" approach to everything; rifles, scopes, mounts/rings, packs, whatever.
 
If all you do is sit in a stand or go to the range, this isn't much of an issue, BUT if you walk and do LOTS of it, I fall into the philosophy that ounces make pounds. Let a few slide on the rifle, a few in your pack, a few more in your boots and BAM, your humping way more weight than you planned. So to me, those ounces matter, I will justify each one.
 
I appreciate all your replies, thanks.
 
 


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I maybe older than a lot of you. I have a Jerry's back pack from from about 1970. Of course it's obsolete, but so am I!  He was one of the first builders of good back packing equipment etc. I still remember his statement of "watch the oz's. and the pounds will take care of themselves!"
It matters if you are walking to the tree stand for 1/2 mile at 800 feet or if you are walking some miles at 10-13000 ft. I really have to watch the oz's. more than ever.
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I just spent my first season with the 3-9 Conquest, which replaced a VXIII Leupold. I like the Conquest better in every way except for the extra weight. I too hunt almost all the time on my feet with rifle in hand and won't notice an extra 4 oz. in my pack, but its effect on the balance of my rifle is noticed. I would like to try something lighter. If I were a stand hunter, I wouldn't care about the extra weight.
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when buying leupold half the money is just for the name, i think a vortex viper is better optically than a vx3 or a elite 4200
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