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HAS ANYBODY HEARD ANYTHING  ABOUT LEOPOLD DISCONTINUE THE VX-3  AFTER THIS YEAR/IF SO ARE THEY GOING TO REPLACE IT WITH A BETTER SCOPE SYSTEM OR WHAT/Shocked
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if they do i promise it will cost you even more money than its really worth
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YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THAT PYRO6999 !
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but in all seriousness, i have heard some mumblings of the vx3 line changing or going away, but they are only rumors
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they do make some nice scopes.I do't know where the glass is made though.
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I had heard the same thing that Leupold was discontinuing the VX3/VXL and I believe Chris just recently confirmed it.
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Maybe Leupold will have a half price fire sale.........Bucky
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I thought Chris said they could not discount these until after Thanksgiving. I may be wrong though.
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Originally posted by countryboy countryboy wrote:

HAS ANYBODY HEARD ANYTHING  ABOUT LEOPOLD DISCONTINUE THE VX-3  AFTER THIS YEAR/IF SO ARE THEY GOING TO REPLACE IT WITH A BETTER SCOPE SYSTEM OR WHAT/Shocked
 
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A Leupold sale happening
 
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First off, I have no connection to Leupold. I could see the  possibility of them discontinuing the VX-III line, but they will not abandon that particular price range. Leupold is the King of the VX-III price point with a premium product known all around the world. I could see them coming out with a "new & improved" version of something similar to bring them into the next century and to stay ahead of the market/competition, but in no way are they going to leave that particluar price range. Think about it from a business standpoint. They are well ahead of moderately priced and comparable scopes, while holding a premium, competitive edge, but cheaper than the ultra-premiums like the Euro scopes. In my opinoin, they know exactlly where they fit into the market place and will not disrupt that. If they do, then I think it will be the end of thier reign. They are not the Ultra-Premium product, nor are they the cheap scope either. In my mind, they offer the best bang for the buck and flat out have a line of scopes that fit almost every niche very well with the VX-III line. Almost every hunter I knows comapres "thier" scope to a Leupold.
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Wow, you must have never looked through anything but a Leupold.  In fact they sell a decent product at a premium price.  Meaning they sell a product that is no better than anyone else's but it costs sometimes twice as much.   Take a look at the Bushnell 4200 line for starters.  It is a very comparable and in some parts better scope all around and is much cheaper. 

I am not arguing that leupold does not make a decent scope, just overpriced for what you are getting.
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Leupold has no problem keeping price points. The problem is they roll back wards to keep them. Wasn't to long ago that 300 bucks would but you a nice VX3. Now it buys you a VX2. I don't like to pay for their customer service up front on every scope, but is is nice to know that it is there if you need it. I think one of the things they will probably have to take a look at is their extended warranty. You can't keep offering the no questions asked type warranty to unlimited generations of purchasers and still stay competitively priced.
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Originally posted by Triple S Triple S wrote:

First off, I have no connection to Leupold. I could see the  possibility of them discontinuing the VX-III line, but they will not abandon that particular price range. Leupold is the King of the VX-III price point with a premium product known all around the world. I could see them coming out with a "new & improved" version of something similar to bring them into the next century and to stay ahead of the market/competition, but in no way are they going to leave that particluar price range. Think about it from a business standpoint. They are well ahead of moderately priced and comparable scopes, while holding a premium, competitive edge, but cheaper than the ultra-premiums like the Euro scopes. In my opinoin, they know exactlly where they fit into the market place and will not disrupt that. If they do, then I think it will be the end of thier reign. They are not the Ultra-Premium product, nor are they the cheap scope either. In my mind, they offer the best bang for the buck and flat out have a line of scopes that fit almost every niche very well with the VX-III line. Almost every hunter I knows comapres "thier" scope to a Leupold.
 
 
The words "premium product" and VX III cannot belong in the same sentence or paragraph unless you're talking about "premium pricing" within a certain segment, then you'd have it. The best bang for the buck belongs firmly to the Elite line IMO/IME. Leupold can't even spell Rainguard, much less produce scope with it.  Look through one sometime before making such assinine statements.  
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I view Leupold VX-III's as premimum products and do feel they are priced accordingly in their respecitve price range. To say that I made an assinine statement is a cheap shot that is unneccessary and very bush league. Just like you, I can have my opinions and I happen to believe they are worth the money. I do not think thier is anything wrong with the Elite series and may infact buy one. However, I do not feel they are any better nor any worse than a VX-III. Some might, some might not. That is your opinion and obvioulsy you are happy paying the price for the Elite series with Rainguard. All to your own.

I think VX-III's are worth the money. That is why I own almost 2 dozen of them. None of them have ever let me down and I am completely happy with thier quality and that of the Leupold custom shop as well. Therefore, for the price they are, I do think they are considered premium products, but they are not in the same class with the Zeiss, Swarovski, or Leicas that I own. They are indeed what I classify as Ultra-Premimum and again are priced accordingly. Sure, I wish they were all cheaper, but they are not. This is why they make Fords/Chevrolets and Blondes/Brunettes. You can beleive in your brand and I can beleive in mind.
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Don't sweat it Triple S. Some people like what Leupold offers and some don't. And then there are the extreme folks who think Leupold is the only name and the extreme folks that act like they was slapped around with a Leupold as a kid.
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There is just a lot of other scopes available now that are as good as a Leupold for considerably less money.  Once you spend some time with these others and see how good they really are, it makes it tough to want to spend that much more on a product that offers nothing more. 

I think that is all we are getting at.

Welcome to the site by the way.  We always need someone else who loves Leupold to pick on.Wink
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Originally posted by JGRaider JGRaider wrote:

Originally posted by Triple S Triple S wrote:

First off, I have no connection to Leupold. I could see the  possibility of them discontinuing the VX-III line, but they will not abandon that particular price range. Leupold is the King of the VX-III price point with a premium product known all around the world. I could see them coming out with a "new & improved" version of something similar to bring them into the next century and to stay ahead of the market/competition, but in no way are they going to leave that particluar price range. Think about it from a business standpoint. They are well ahead of moderately priced and comparable scopes, while holding a premium, competitive edge, but cheaper than the ultra-premiums like the Euro scopes. In my opinoin, they know exactlly where they fit into the market place and will not disrupt that. If they do, then I think it will be the end of thier reign. They are not the Ultra-Premium product, nor are they the cheap scope either. In my mind, they offer the best bang for the buck and flat out have a line of scopes that fit almost every niche very well with the VX-III line. Almost every hunter I knows comapres "thier" scope to a Leupold.
 
 
The words "premium product" and VX III cannot belong in the same sentence or paragraph unless you're talking about "premium pricing" within a certain segment, then you'd have it. The best bang for the buck belongs firmly to the Elite line IMO/IME. Leupold can't even spell Rainguard, much less produce scope with it.  Look through one sometime before making such assinine statements.  
....................................Triple S` comment was not an assinine statement!
 
I did own a 3x9 4200 which was mounted conventionally on my rifle. I traded it and opted instead for a scout mounted Monarch scope for that same rifle. I do like the 4200`s very much and they are a better scope for the money than are the VX3`s.
 
In searching for a scope for my 375 Ruger, the first scopes I looked at were the 4200`s. Unfortunately, Bushnell then and now, offers only one 1" low powered variable scope in the 4200 line, the 1.25-4 for use on a DGR.
 
While more loyalty perhaps lied with a 4200, there wasn`t one suitable for my application, ie; variable and reticle choices. Hence came the 1.5-5x20 VX3 German #4, which now sits on my 375 Ruger. By far, Leupold has the greatest selections to meet any need.
 
Optically between the 4200 and the VX3, there is really alot of hair splitting going on as these debates continue. Yes! In my case, I paid more for the VX3 than perhaps a 1" 4200, had one been available with the right reticle choice.
 
However, there is no doubt that one of the best applications suitable for my .375 Ruger Alaskan was the VX3. I`d rather pay more and put the right scope on, rather than pay less and put the wrong scope on, especially if the two are very close optically, such as the 4200 and the VX3. 
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Guys, VX3 is a good scope and I am is interested as the next guy in what they replace it with.  I am not aprticularly optimistic that the new product will amount to a good value, but time will tell. I do think VX-3 is quite overpriced for what they are, but for as long as Leupold can sell them for that price, why should they lower it?

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