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What's the difference between Razors, Vipers, and Stokes in their lineup in reference to quality/value, sweet spot, etc?  The posts here seem to really like the Razors, but was just wondering how they match up against each other and against the likes of the Meoptas, etc.  ($850 OR LESS CATEGORY!)
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Haven't seen the Stokes stuff, but Razor is a step up from Viper in their lineup.
I own an 8X42 Razor and tested the Viper for a couple weeks recently through the OT "test drive."
 
Both Razor and Viper are made in Japan.
Both have lifetime warranty.
Both feature ED glass and are well-made.
Razor is an open bridge design; Viper has the traditional hinge.
Razor has much larger sweet spot, much wider FOV, and better resolution than Viper.
Viper appeared to have more "tunnel vision" than Razor.   
Viper has much more visible CA than Razor, which has very low, almost nonexistant CA, at least in the 8x versions.
Viper is much more compact and lighter than Razor.
Razor has 15-position eyecup adjustability; Viper has 4 position eyecups.
Razor has center focus diopter adjustment in combination with the focus knob; Viper has locking diopter adjustment on the right barrel.
Viper I tested had one of the smoothest focusers I've seen, smoother than my Razor, which is much improved from the original generation of Razors.
 
I think the Razor is equivalent to the Meopta optically.  The Viper isn't quite in that league, but is still very good for the price.  Viper is a great mid priced binocular, with very good center field resolution and a pretty flat field.  The Razor actually isn't too far behind the "big 3" alpha class bins in terms of optical performance.  I think it is one of the best, if not the best value for the money in high end binoculars.  The Viper is an exceptional value in its price class as well.  To me, if you don't mind the extra length and weight, the Razor is worth the extra $ over the Viper.  It has a very expansive, relaxed view with a wide, sharp sweet spot.
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Thanks, Ted.
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From what I've seen, the optics of the Razor and DLS are pretty much equal.  The primary difference is in the size and the basic differences in the open vs single hinge bridge.  The DLA is much lighter and more compact and has a fast birders type focus.  It uses about one turnof the knob and Razor is about 1.5 turns.  WHile the Razor does indeed have better resolution than the Viper the difference is pretty slim.  My Vipers are a little brighter than the Razor.  To me the main obvious difference is the size and weight and FOV.  The Viper is a much nicer to carry but the Razor has a magnificient FOV.  So far I've not need more reach from my Viper.  Actyally the DLS is kind of like the Viper with Razor optics.
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I think that sums it up pretty well, Klamath, though I didn't see a difference purely from a brightness standpoint.  The resolution differences show up best in a star test, where the Viper clearly has more CA.
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