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I dont do any long range range shooting but that was an interesting read. Thats a beautiful rifle. As an avid photographer I like your photos as well.
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Jon, did you ever get the problems you had with this scope resolved?  What was the outcome of it?
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I'm waiting on the replacement, but still using this one in the meantime.  Other than the things I noted it has been doing fine.
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Just read this, Bummer. I hope Vortex has fixed this. I was dead set on purchasing this scope but now I'm not sure.

On to more research.
Thanks for the detailed review btw.
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They are holding back the release of the scope to address all these problems.  The new ones that come out will be correct.
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Any idea on when these kinks will be worked out?
I don't mind waiting, if the issues will get fixed. Might go with a SS 10x42 to hold me over.
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I think you'd be fine to start with the SS10x.  hell you would be fine to use it for as long as it fulfills your needs.   SS has a 5-20 in the works currently that will be nothing short of amazing when it is released, but there is no timeframe yet.  There are two members on this forum from Vortex both have acknowledged that the PST will be out when they are right and not before.  Before the end of the year hopefully but I wouldn't put my money on anything because they are at the mercy of the manufacturer.  They do not want to put a scope out that will fail and not live up to the claims.  The 10X SS is a great scope.  the 10X HD is an awesome scope as is the 3-9 SS  If you want better glass setup  to the 3-9 or 10Xhd and you'll never look back. not that the standard 10x is bad but they are in a different league.  Good thing about all the SS's though, they hold there value great!
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Thanks SVT, I'd prefer to stick with the standard 10SS(although variable would be my main choice). Mostly because it's to hold me over, and I would not want to spend too much- being that I do plan on purchasing a nice variable from either Vortex or SS when they are released/fixed. I keep seeing mentions of the 5-20SS, that would be such a sweet scope.

Most of this, is me just over thinking. And having seen many posts by reps/people from Vortex, it makes me feel very confident in them as a company.
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i would say they are the most in touch with the community of all the companies.  I have called and talked to both several times.  I would even feel confident in you using a standard viper for a hold over scope.
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

i would say they are the most in touch with the community of all the companies.  I have called and talked to both several times.  I would even feel confident in you using a standard viper for a hold over scope.

That's exactly what I did. I placed an order for a 6-24X50 FFP in august and bought a 6.5-20X50 TD for temporary use wich i plan on mounting on my target .22 L.R. once the PST is here.

In my experience Standard Vipers have Great Glass. Even better than higher priced scopes. I compared my 6.5-20X44 and 6.5-20X50 side by side with a 8.5-25X50 VX-III and a 5-20X44Monarch @10x, 15x and 20x and liked the Viper Better.

I hope the glass on the PST is really an upgrade from the standard viper. I can't wait to get mine in my hands.


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Just saw this thread... another outstanding review Jon!!!  Excellent

Thank you once again!

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I've been meaning to update this thread as well.  There really isn't much to add to the above--no surprises, the scope has just worked very well as expected.

I didn't keep an exact round count but it survived somewhere around 100 rounds from my light weight 300 RUM shooting 240's at just under 3K fps with no ill effects, so that's a pretty good recoil durability test.  I did lots more shooting at long range with it, here's a pic at 1057 yds shooting an 18" gong (through some fog/clouds):



Tracking was very repeatable and reliable.

While I didn't take it on my pack in elk hunt, I did use it a fair amount hunting whitetails, including a lot of brush hunting on my lightweight 7-08.  I did try it as is, but after only a few minutes into the first hunt the turrets had moved a couple times just from the way I was carrying it, so I taped them up:



Orange fuzz from my vest....  With the nice FFP reticle I was still ready for any long shot that may have been presented.

One of the better features in the thick stuff was the reticle.  Many get concerned about using a FFP on low power in low light but the reticle is sized such that it would do OK without the illumination.  Not great, but certainly OK.  

But with the very good illumination, it goes from OK to excellent for such use.  Here are a couple pics I took long ago to show how the reticle looks on 4X in low light:





Anyway, I assume my replacement should be here fairly shortly.  I'll keep all of you updated on how they compare.
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Well, the replacement 4-16 is here.  Now I haven't shot with it yet or even looked through it in daylight but figured you guys would like to know:

Turret feel--fantastic!  Much stiffer and solid feel, much less likely to turn accidentally.  Very quality feel.

Tracking check--reticle is straight as an arrow.  Clicks are dead nuts on--or as I said with the Premier earlier in this thread if there's any deviation it's smaller than the accuracy to which I can measure.  Perfect as far as I'm concerned.

That's it.  Sorry if this highly anticipated review was anti-climactic, but that's the way I like it.  I'll take no drama any day.
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Sounds like Vortex has ironed things out...should be a winner for them (and buyers).
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Originally posted by Jon A Jon A wrote:

Well, the replacement 4-16 is here.  Now I haven't shot with it yet or even looked through it in daylight but figured you guys would like to know:

Turret feel--fantastic!  Much stiffer and solid feel, much less likely to turn accidentally.  Very quality feel.

Tracking check--reticle is straight as an arrow.  Clicks are dead nuts on--or as I said with the Premier earlier in this thread if there's any deviation it's smaller than the accuracy to which I can measure.  Perfect as far as I'm concerned.

That's it.  Sorry if this highly anticipated review was anti-climactic, but that's the way I like it.  I'll take no drama any day.

I have had a chance to look at two new production 2.5-10x44 PST scopes and I concur that knobs are very good and track perfectly.  I am also impressed with long eyerelief and overall build quality.

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Does anyone know if these are shipping yet? I just got a new Heavy Barrell REM700SPS in 223 that I am dropping in a HS Precision Stock that needs one of these.
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They're shipping now, but a lot of backorders need to be filled. Still, it's a scope worth waiting for, especially this time of year. I'd call to see if you can get an ETA if time is a factor.
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thanks for the update JonoMT. I am not in a huge rush. Hoping to trade a couple other scopes to upgrade to this one.

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Good deal thanks for the updateExcellent
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Jon,

Please see my Viper and Viper PST experiences in the below thread.

Could you please try to test your PST in a manner that would replicate a situation like I described in my thread and see if you experience the same problems?

In a nutshell, in late afternoon evening hunts if you are caught in a situation where you may be facing in the general direction of a low horizon to setting sun condition, that the scope has a lot of glare that transmits to the eye making a shot impossible. And if you don't mind, let me know how yours performs say in the last 5 minutes of legal shooting light at power above 8X.

Thank you Sir, it would be greatly appreciated. I really would like to know if others are experiencing the same issues that I am.
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Sorry, forgot the link.

http://www.opticstalk.com/topic22065_post399885.html#399885
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While some handle it better than others, no optic is "flare proof".  At the correct (or incorrecct, as the case may be) angles and intensity, the sun creates difficulties with any scope, most noticeably when the sun is low on the horizon.  Those scopes that are more susceptible require a longer sunshade and/or ARD, but under the right/wrong circumstances, it can occur with any scope. 
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

While some handle it better than others, no optic is "flare proof".  At the correct (or incorrecct, as the case may be) angles and intensity, the sun creates difficulties with any scope, most noticeably when the sun is low on the horizon.  Those scopes that are more susceptible require a longer sunshade and/or ARD, but under the right/wrong circumstances, it can occur with any scope. 


I agree with this. After spending some more time with the PST, head position seems to be extremely critical. My Leupold Mark 4s are much more forgiving.
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Old thread, and these have been out for a couple years now.  Just wondering about the durability on a magnum rifle.  I know Jon put about 100 rounds thru it on a 300 RUM, so it will probably be fine on a 7mm Rem Mag.  I'm looking at a like new 6-24, Moa reticle.
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