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I am looking to upgrade an old Bushnell scope on my Mulie/Pronger/Elk rifle.  270 Win shooting 130 gr. or 150 gr. Nosler Partitions. 

I think I want a 3-9x40 scope.

So the 3 I'm looking at are the Vortex Viper Here:

http://swfa.com/Vortex-3-9x40-Viper-Rifle-Scope-P11229.aspx

Bushnell 4200 elite Here:

http://swfa.com/Bushnell-3-9x40-Elite-4200-Rifle-Scope-P6910.aspx

And the Nikon Team Primos Here:

http://swfa.com/Nikon-3-9x40-Team-Primos-Riflescope-P47059.aspx

From what I've read the best customer service and warranty come from Vortex.  But it's $100 bucks more than the Team Primos.   And the 4200 seems like a good scope too.


The only downside I see to the Team Primos is the reticle looks too busy.

So as far as the scope quality itself goes, which is the better scope?  How do I pick?

Thanks for any help.




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Once upside to the Elite 4200 is the rainguard that helps quite a bit in incliment weather.  Depending on what hunting environment you are in it could mean the difference in a shot being able to be made.
 
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 Hey,rooster. WELCOME to OT.
 
 Well you've picked 3 GOOD ones that's for sure! All are top quality in their price range and beyond some. Beings your shooting a .270,recoil is of no concern. All are GOOD optically. I guess FOR ME it it would come down to reticle choice.  I like a regular plex for an all around scope.  The 4200 does have Rainguard and has been around long enough to prove it's durability. It's REALLY a TOUGH choice but if I had to choose RIGHT NOW I'd go with the 4200,although all 3 will do what your wanting out of a scope. 
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 I just bought the 4200 3-9 40mm scope from swfa. Got  a great deal. Mounting it on a sako 85 finnlight 270 win.

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I was 99.9% dead set on a Team Primos but I believe I've changed my mind towards the 4200. I was wanting something a little more than 3-9x40 for my 30-06.....but for the price the 4200 is probably the best deal around. I have a Zeiss 3-9 on my Browning .270 and I'm shooting 130gr Rem Core locks. I just mounted it a few months back and got it sighted in. I just need 1 more range trip to dial it in perfect. I'd go with the 4200. The rainguard and the Primos reticle being too busy is what as well as price is whats steering me to the 4200--Bbboy623
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Originally posted by rooster59 rooster59 wrote:

I am looking to upgrade an old Bushnell scope on my Mulie/Pronger/Elk rifle.  270 Win shooting 130 gr. or 150 gr. Nosler Partitions. 

I think I want a 3-9x40 scope.

So the 3 I'm looking at are the Vortex Viper Here:

http://swfa.com/Vortex-3-9x40-Viper-Rifle-Scope-P11229.aspx

Bushnell 4200 elite Here:

http://swfa.com/Bushnell-3-9x40-Elite-4200-Rifle-Scope-P6910.aspx

And the Nikon Team Primos Here:

http://swfa.com/Nikon-3-9x40-Team-Primos-Riflescope-P47059.aspx

From what I've read the best customer service and warranty come from Vortex.  But it's $100 bucks more than the Team Primos.   And the 4200 seems like a good scope too.


The only downside I see to the Team Primos is the reticle looks too busy.

So as far as the scope quality itself goes, which is the better scope?  How do I pick?

Thanks for any help.






uh flip a coin dude, i have all three of them and its a pretty tough call. the 4200 has rainguard and pretty nice glass, the eye relief on it isnt stellar, but its good enough for your yucky .270. the bdc isnt all that bad really, once you shoot the rifle a few different times the bdc goes away and you will forget its even there. eye relief is better than on the 4200, but no rainguard, and nikons cs dept is spotty. vortex has excellent glass excellent eye relief and superior cs dept, it only lacks rainguard. optically all three are so close. good luck, glad its your problem and not mine.




if you want to make it even worse throw a zeiss conquest into the mix, yeah its a little more expensive but its in this class of scopes as well.
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I've got 4 vortex scopes and 1 4200 that I bought before I got my first vortex. All 3 of the ones on your short list are good hunting scopes. Like you I am not crazy about the nikon sights, "have the 4.5-14 x 40 buckmaster on my daughters .243 Pyro is right it really isn't an issue once you are used to it" but for $200 it's hard to pass on it. I haven't used a viper yet, but I like my Diamondback just as much as my 4200   


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I also like the 4200, but all three are great scopes, you really can't go wrong with any of them.
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I have two different 4200 scopes--2.5-10x50 and 1.25-4x24.

Optically, both scopes are awesome and in low light (night time looking at darkened buildings downtown) I cannot easily spot any differences between them and a Zeiss Conquest.

I'll have to compare them against my Swarovski binoculars.

Both are listed as Illuminated #4 reticles, but the reticles are different. The 1.25-4x24 has thinner inner reticles, so that where the lines cross, a minimal amount of the target is covered. The 2.5-10x50 has a much thicker reticle section in the center.

I know a lot of people like this for low light hunting, but I find the trade off is that the reticle covers most of a target at 100 yards at 10x, making precision shots questionable.

I always though the purpose of the plex and #4 reticles was, for low light or quick shots, the thick outside lines gave you easy to find guides. The thin inner lines give you precision. Having the inner lines too thick negates this.

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The only price I've seen for the Bushnell 4200 3-9x40 is $299.  Is there a better price somewhere?

thanks.


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I asked a similar question a while ago, whether any scope could touch the Primos for the price.  No one really answered my question, instead leading me on to look at the Vortex line, which I ultimately purchased - a 2-7x32.

Basically you have one scope for $200 and two for $300.  Do you get 50% more scope with the Vortex or Bushnell over the Primos?  I really doubt it.  If the Rainguard (or Vortex's pretty great warranty reputation) is worth another $100 to you, or if you hate the BDC reticle, go for the higher priced scope.  Otherwise . . .
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the thing about the nikon is their cs-dept is spotty.
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I have seen the 4200 3-9x40 for around $250.00 by the competition which is a good price.SWFA would match the price no problem.Of the 3 the Bushnell is an overall better buy. 
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I don't have any experience with the Primos but I will tell you that I have had the Viper 3x9 for about 3 weeks now. Mounted on my AR it is a bright picture clear picture from edge-to-edge, holds zero with 300+ rounds fired and seems equally sharp at all magnifications. As a diehard Leupold advocate I have have had nothing but great experiences with this $300 scope.  My 2 cents.
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 Try & save for the Zeiss,best of all that was mentioned.Welcome to OT Welcome

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