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I made a post a couple days ago asking for a good variable scope in the $1000 range.  I was directed to the Vortex Viper PST 4-16X50 mil dot.  This is a beautiful scope for that price range.  My question is...I am just starting to move out into the longer range shooting world and I am wondering if the Vortex Crossfire 4-16X50 mil dot would tie me over in the interim until I get some 4-600m practice under my belt.

Another reason is because I found the Razor HD series and wow they look nice.  If I bought the crossfire now, I could justify saving and upgrading to the Razor HD later.  I am not sure if I could if I already had a Viper on my rifle. 

I am shooting a 7mm Rem Mag.  Concerns of recoil for the crossfire?  Is the extra $1500 between the Viper and the Razor worth the wait?  At the $2500 mark is it better to get an S&B or something else?  Anyone have experience with high end optics?

Thanks for your help.
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I would get the standard Viper to hold you over, the crossfire is the bottom line from Vortex and while its not a bad scope, I think you'd be happier with the glass quality from the Viper line up.  my first pick for a long range scope would not be the crossfire simply because of glass quality lacking from what I would want.
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Originally posted by sgsxr sgsxr wrote:

Another reason is because I found the Razor HD series and wow they look nice.  If I bought the crossfire now, I could justify saving and upgrading to the Razor HD later.  I am not sure if I could if I already had a Viper on my rifle.


For the ranges you've stated, I'm not sure you'd ever need anything more than the Viper PST. Also, consider that you could probably turn around and sell it for $100-200 less than new while a Crossfire may well be about worthless. A Crossfire will likely not track as well, frustrating your learning experience.
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Originally posted by jonoMT jonoMT wrote:

Originally posted by sgsxr sgsxr wrote:

Another reason is because I found the Razor HD series and wow they look nice.  If I bought the crossfire now, I could justify saving and upgrading to the Razor HD later.  I am not sure if I could if I already had a Viper on my rifle.


For the ranges you've stated, I'm not sure you'd ever need anything more than the Viper PST. Also, consider that you could probably turn around and sell it for $100-200 less than new while a Crossfire may well be about worthless. A Crossfire will likely not track as well, frustrating your learning experience.


Good point.  It would still hold value.  So...basically for what I plan to be shooting...1K, the Viper is the scope of choice.

Next question?  Where is the best place to buy one?  I live in Canada?
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You would want to contact Vortex Canada as export laws prevent American dealers shipping riflescopes out of the country.


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Vortex Canada is based out of Guelph, you can go on that site and it will tell you where the nearest dealers are to you.  I did the same thing and would have never known a small shop in Mount Forest only 1/2 hour away from me carried them.
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I run a Vortex Crossfire for long range shooting, out to 1000 meters, and have no problems with the glass quality or dialing distance/windage.

I agree it's not the top of the line scope, but it does do the job.
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Originally posted by sideforce sideforce wrote:

I run a Vortex Crossfire for long range shooting, out to 1000 meters, and have no problems with the glass quality or dialing distance/windage.

I agree it's not the top of the line scope, but it does do the job.


Thanks for your input!
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Viper  PST in 1/10 mil adjustments
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Stay away from the crossfire models. The first one I had, 4 rounds out of my m1a and the crosshairs started to rotate.
Vortex is great to work with and they honor their warranty.
With that said, I went with their viper 6.5-20X44 scope and love it.
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+1 on Viper 6.5-20x44 a great scope out to the distance you are going.SWFA selling them for only $400.
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Originally posted by kmcintosh78 kmcintosh78 wrote:

Stay away from the crossfire models. The first one I had, 4 rounds out of my m1a and the crosshairs started to rotate.
Vortex is great to work with and they honor their warranty.
With that said, I went with their viper 6.5-20X44 scope and love it.
 
I don't know if i'd go that far.  You had one fail but there are plenty out there using the crossfires with no problems.  They are a decent scope for the money and its not like everyone of them have issues.  Dont' get to caught up on you having 1 crossfire fail so you brand that model line with a scarlet letter.
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Not to mention the M1a is one of the most violent recoil strokes in the world. The second part of that  bears repeating though... Vortex honored their warranty. 
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