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cheaptrick
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I've never used a laser bore sighter on an AR, but this method flat WORKS!! I do it all the time when I swap scopes out on my AR. Good call, Scott! |
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Griffin99
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+1 Cheaptrick. I had a buddy of mine teach me this many years ago. Save a ton on both ammo and messing around a 25 yds if what you after is a 100 yd sight in. Best thing is you can do this at the house and save that much more time at the range for trigger time!! The key is a steady rest. The rest is user friendly.
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cheaptrick
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Griffin99:
You at Ft Sill??
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JohnnyG83
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New member here. I just purchased my first rifled slug shot gun for deer hunting (H&R USH 12ga). That was the easy decision for me, the hard one is deciding on a scope. I was basically set on the Redfield Revolution 2-7 with Accurange. Then while reading some reviews for it, came across numerous discussions about the Vortex Viper line-up; which have been nothing but positive.
So now, I'm thinking about purchasing a Viper 2-7 with the C3 reticle. For those that have this scope or have a shot gun similar to mine; would the Viper 2-7 be a good choice for me?
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Bitterroot Bulls
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Should be a great scope for a slug gun!
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-Matt
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stickbow46
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Welcome to the OT!
+1 can't go wrong with that combo.
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budperm
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I've got two vipers with teh C3 reticle. You'll love it!!! Grab it while you can, cause it's WELL BELOW it's price point and that was a bargain price to begin with. You won't find better glass at $150 either!!!
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JohnnyG83
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Thanks for the quick reply everyone. This is a lot of scope for the money and I would be an idiot to not jump on a deal like this. Only concern I have is eye relief.
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Bitterroot Bulls
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Eye relief should not be a problem. |
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-Matt
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ArtP
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I thought I'd sort of crash the party here with my thoughts on the Viper 2-7x32 BDC...
Of course I couldn't resist trying one out at $169 when they still had the BDC version available. Without comparing head-to-head against another scope, my initial thoughts were it was an amazing scope for the money. After a thorough comparison a couple months later against a 20 year old Vari-X III in 2.5-8x36 my thoughts have changed considerably.
The construction of the Vortex, the feel of the adjustments, eye relief, the resettable turrets and the finish all are top notch.
The image of the Leupold was certainly better; definitely better contrast and slightly better resolution. The Vortex did have a slight amount of blur at the very edges, but this is not a deal breaker and not really noticeable unless you're looking for it. In a low powered hunting configuration I found the reticle of the Viper to be too fine for quick acquisition, but certainly usable.
The surprise factor was FOV. Even though the technical specifications of the Viper beat the Leupold on paper, the reality is, the Leupy at 2.5x had a pretty significant FOV advantage over the Viper set at 2x. I couldn't believe this was true and I did test that over and over. Set at equal magnification, the Leupold had better FOV AND more magnification. Go figure.
I think the Viper does suffer from tunnel vision. My explanation of tunnel vision is that the Viper image took up about 70% of my eye's total sight picture, while the Leupold took up almost all of my site picture. This is difficult to explain, another attempt at an explanation is that the image of the Leupold simply looks bigger and fills more of my eye image. I believe this is the reason the Leupold has a better FOV and seemed to offer more magnification when set identically to the Viper.
Both scopes had acceptable "eye box" position. That is to say neither scope suffered if my head moved slightly up/down, left/right. This is something I'm sensitive to and reason enough by itself to get rid of a scope. Some scopes I've used (Nikon Monarch's) quickly gray out with the slightest head movement, then quickly blink out with more movement.
With regards to turrets and the design of the mag ring the Vortex is better. Both scopes are about the same size and weigh about the same. The Leupold at the same size/weight, with better FOV, better magnification, better reticle and slightly better image is the clear winner. I did not get as far as testing light gathering ability as dawn/dusk. But it's been my experience that better contrast usually lends itself to better light gathering.
For the price, the Vortex is completely acceptable, just not as good as a scope costing more than twice the price, but that's to be expected. Now I know it's not fair to compare these two scopes with such a large discrepancy in price, but I've read too many reviews where the Viper is as good or better than the VX III's. Comparing my individual scopes, I did not find that to be the case, and I do believe my Viper is defective. In fact, being the picky person I am, the Viper shipped out yesterday to a new owner and only cost me a $20 loss over what I paid. I picked up the Leupold used in this comparison, used but excellent condition for $200.
If I were on a budget and had to choose between both scopes at NIB pricing, I would take the Vortex.
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ArtP
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I meant to say, my viper is NOT defective.
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3_tens
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ArtP good review. You will need to get 50 post to be able to edit. There once was a boost your post thread just for this purpose.
Edited by 3_tens - September/15/2011 at 13:34 |
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