Vortex question.........kinda

I am waiting for my return from Uncle Sam, and this is dangerous.  The more I read Koshkins excellent review of 'Scopes for the financially challenged' (paraphrasing of course) I keep wanting to flip-flop my decision of a Fullfield II (which was originally an Elite 3200).

The ONLY real fear I have of the Vortex is will they be around should I need services. 

When I was still in Germany, I purchased a scope from Redfield's Tracker SE line(4-12x  40AO), just as they went under.  I was having problems with the focus ring for the AO, and couldn't send it back for the formerly good & free customer service.  So I basically got stuck with an unsatisfactory scope, rare for Redfield during the Denver era I know, but still it was so.

A few months later at the Nuernberg Gun Exibition, a vendor offered me a Sightron 3-9x  Si II for the equivlent of $100 (150 Deutsch Mark at the time).  I turned it down, not having heard of them at that time, and I am still kicking myself for it.

So imagine a rock and a hard place, now put my Sooner lovin' butt in between them.  I feel if I get the Burris FFII, I will lose out on the low light praise the Vortex gets, but benefit from the eye relief (I wear glasses).  But if I go Vortex, with my luck, they will get the same fate as Redfield.

The reason I disregarded  the 3200, was that the Burris and Vortex are fully multi coated, in Germany I learned the value of optical coatings.

And lastly, I want the Fullfield II, because SWFA has a special package of the FFII and a rimfire scope for $219.00 total.  And I was planning to get a new rimfire scope any way.

So, beat me up, slap me around, and grab me by the collar, and set me straight.

i think vortex will be around for a while, ive got a viper scope and its excellent. they make very good binos and spotters, there warranty is unbeatable. they are here for a while i wouldnt let it bother me. i would buy another vortex product if i needed something.

Although the Vortex brand name is new, their ownership has been in the optics business for a long time.  Given how much their product line has exploded over the past couple years and the quality of the products they are offering, I don't think they are in danger of going out of business.

Have a drink and get the Vortex.......it's only a rifle scope...

 

    

 

 

I'm no prognosticator (hell, look at my 401k - aigh!) but Vortex is FIRMLY established as not only a quality manufacturer or high-end optics, but also serves the mid and low priced markets very well.  This makes for a loyal, built-in customer base.  Given their excellent track record of quality customer service and presence on numerous internet gun boards, spells great success in the future.  A lot of companies only serve one or maybe two  of the 3 markets, and often are either arrogant, deaf and dumb to their customers, or do one market pretty well and the other not-so-well.  So far Vortex has surpassed all my expectations, and LISTEN to their customers.

I've already decided my next two scopes (for my 6.5 AR's) will be Vortex.  High quality glass with warranty on par with Leupold. These guys aren't going under anytime soon.

Does anybody have the info, for how the ballistic dot Vortex works for .308 (factory) rounds.  I usually shoot Remington CoreLokt 150 grain bullets.  The Mauser will have a 24" barrel.

I think the 2-7x  35mm, with Dead-Hold BDC will be my choice.

The company has been in the optics business since 86 I believe.  I would not worry to much about it.

eurolynn wrote: Does anybody have the info, for how the ballistic dot Vortex works for .308 (factory) rounds.  I usually shoot Remington CoreLokt 150 grain bullets.  The Mauser will have a 24" barrel. I think the 2-7x35mm, with Dead-Hold BDC will be my choice.

Before I continue further, I think I should mention why I am somewhat skeptical about most holdover reticle out there: they tend to us hashmarks with variable spacing.  That means that if I end up using a different magnification or the distance is not quite perfect for the reticle, I have to remember a bunch of different reticle dimensions.  I am not exactly numerically challenged, but I still find that a bit annoying.  With a mil-based reticle like IOR’s MP-8, for example, there are full-mil hashmarks and half-mil hashmarks.  Even without a ballistic card, that is something I can comfortably use for on-the-spot calculations (when I was growing up in Russia, I did not have a calculator).

With all that out of the way, Vortex’ BDC reticle is not half-bad:

As you can see in the picture above, Vortex’ BDC reticle has a combination of holdover marks on the vertical wire and mil marks on the horizontal wire.  The part that I like is that the vertical hashmarks are at -1.5MOA, -4.5MOA (3MOA increment) and -7.5MOA (another 3MOA increment).  This I can use for both holdover and range estimation with minimal mental gymnastics.  I am still used to mil-based systems, but for those who think in inches and MOA, this is a workable solution.  As a practical manner, I was comfortable using the reticle with all three cartridges I tried with it: 22-250, 8x57 and 7.62x54R.

I've thought about getting the BDC, my intention was to cover hunting whitetail and shooting at rodents at short to mid-range. But the more I think about it I'm guessing I can do the same with a simple duplex reticle. It sounds like the plex is easier to see in low-light compared to the BDC. 

 Vortex is one of the best producers of spotting scopes that I had experience with. I would strongly recommend for anyone interested. I like the combination of ergonomic design, performance, ruggedness and great value. While other producers claim the latest technologies and innovations,continue in the tradition of Vortex brand with its attention to detail, proven functionality and unbeatable price to usability ratio. Whatever your application, when looking for a good riflescope - don't count out the good ole Vortex. If looking for a good selection at a reasonable price, several online stores carry them in stock, but I found the best service - they have in depth product detail, pictures, comparisons and reviews. Check them out if just for product research.




Edited by cyborg - March/23/2010 at 12:59

Alright Morrison.... You have now commited the same offense more than once. I will ban you if you persist. READ OUR RULES!!!!!!

Risasi

It is strictly for deer and game targets.

BTW, I already purchased one, by sheer chance, I met the Vortex Sales Rep here in McAlester, he gave me the price from is book he was carrying.  The ONLY thing that made it less then SWFA was no postage.  So SWFA still hasn't been beat in price in any way.

Goin on a limb here, I mentioned to him I based my 'willing to pay' price on SWFA, he assured me that was a very good way to go about purchasing optics!  So kudos to SWFA, they get phrase for a Ceaser (so to speak).

The poster you warned has three nearly identical posts, all apparent spam.  The heave-ho seems appropriate.

He was given the heave ho already. I will not sit idly and let some spam artist run amok in OUR forum. His blatant disrespect for SWFA and the rules here earned him a place in the infamous list.

 I am the "GOD OF WIND" not just because I am a blow hard.

cyborg wrote:  I am the "GOD OF WIND" not just because I am a blow hard.

I didn't see Alexis' posts in the raw, but from her homepage, can figure out where she wanted us to go.

just me or should that be deleted to?

I thought that I had deleted any links from the posts. Wait. I shall eliminate the homepage as well.