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Optics GrassHopper
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I'm looking for another pair of binos (7x or less mag).  I currently have Leupold Yosemite 6x30 which are fabulous (especially for the price).  I got a pair for each of my 2 sons and they really like them also.  I also have an pair of Bushnell Legend 8x42...also very decent, durable and functional.
Just to note: I own several Vortex oroducts including two (Viper 2x7), and one Diamondback (2-7) scopes.  Again, I am very happy with these Vortex products.  I also have a pair of Vortex Crossfire binos (10x42) and I am not impressed in the least.  10x in binos is way to much for my shaky 49 year old hands and the glass is...well, it is what it is for the price.  I bought them for one of my boys.
I have been looking for a set up binos under $400 and I would like a bit more power than 6x.  I have been a member of this site for a few years and while I have little to say, i read scope and bino posts nearly every day.  I also lurk on several other sites and feel that I have a very good idea of what's hot and what's not from some very well respected optics folks.  Lots of exellent insight on this site.
I would like some input on a couple of options:
Vortex Fury 6.5x32 vs. Vortex Diamondback 7x36.  Question: what's better...or are they they a horse a-piece?  I read that the Fury's are phase corrected and with at 6.5x the Fury's have a wider FOV.  /FOV is important and low light performance is also a plus along with good eye relief.
I have researched Zen Rays, EO's , Vortex Raptor and 6x Viper (great closeout deal), and I can see lots of options.  I do not read a great deal about impressions from a number of folks on the Fury and Diamondback.
I have heavily researched the Zen Ray 7x model but I'am a bit concerned about the shorter eye relief.  When hunting ducks and deer I wear prescription sunglasses and they curve out a bit and   I'm a concerned about the potential "kidney Beaning" effect from the Zen Rays.  I get a bit of kidney beaning from my 8x42 Legends. Your input is appreciated.
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Here's another Leupold binocular that is worth having a look through.
Good eye relief & an acceptable FOV & very good for low light. (6mm exit pupil)

Edited by Bird Watcher - February/10/2011 at 10:33
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After your post I dug out my 7x or less glass and tried them with both reading glasses and the sunglasses I usually wear.  I do not use prescription glasses for anything, but do use over the counter reading glasses.  Past 4' or so, I don't need help yet.  I'm 62 so that day may be coming.
You are missing a bet with the Swift Eaglet 7x36.  That is the only one I can see the entire fov with both types of glasses.  However it has the narrowest fov to begin with and you will see less total view than with the ZEN or the Fury.  It is the most compact of the bunch by a fair margin.  Next on the fov view is the 6.5x32 Vortex Raptor.  I can see almost all of the fov of this one.  The ZEN ED 2 7x36 is next.  I can't see the whole fov, but most of it (95%) and since it has the widest out of the box fov you are left with being able to see a wider sweet spot with this binocular than with any of the others.  The Fury is pretty close behind, but despite its listed greater eye relief, it shows some cut off of the fov as well.  Its sweet spot is just a little smaller than the ZEN ED 2.  The ZEN has a better image.  The Diamondback is last.  This shows about the same apparent cut off of the fov as the Fury but the sweet spot is smaller because it has less fov to begin with.  I would rank image quality as ZEN ED 2 first, Eaglet second, the Fury third, with the Raptor and Diamondback too close to the Fury to really call a practical difference, but if pressed, I would rank them in the order I listed them.
It seems eye glass wearers are never really happy with most binoculars and seem to settle on one due as much on how much a particular viewer can see with his/her vision as with anything else.  One thing I have seen recommended on "what to get to use with eye glasses" threads on several forums is to pay close attention to how your prescription glasses fit your face. and to get the lenses as flat and parallel to your eye surface and as close to the eye as can be done.  This seems to make some sense to a non eye glass wearer, but I have no practical basis in life to know how effective it is.  I think it has some merit, because it seems to be a nearly universal suggestion.
I suppose I should edit to add I can get some type of flare, glare, or partial blackout on any of them.  I concluded over the course of the day yesterday and this morning that it is largely due to my inexperience in holding the binocular just right in relation to the surface of the glasses I had on more that any problem with any binocular. 
So there it is.  Just keep in mind I'm not an eye glass wearer and this may not mean a lot.

Edited by Klamath - February/10/2011 at 11:11
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