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Trying to select the right tool for the right job:
What uses would the SWFA 3-9x42 Scope be more suited to vs. the SS 10x42?
I'm thinking what would be more suited to a SHTF Springfield Scout.
Like I said, a very newbie question.
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It would certainly be more useful for hunting, as would most any variable (or a lower mag. fixed scope, i.e. 4X). As for what you mentioned, close range and with this scope also long range. Because it is FFP (first focal plane) the reticle will work for ranging targets regardless of magnification. If I didn't already own a Nightforce, this scope would be my next choice.
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The  SA Scout rifle has a forward mounted base for a scout style scope or a red dot.
Let me post scopes that would work on that forward mount first:
Aimpoint 9000SC 30mm Red Dot Sight 2 MOA Dot Aimpoint 9000SC 30mm Red Dot Sight
Stock # - 11417
  • Matte
  • 2 MOA Dot
  • 30mm
  • Free Aimpoint Bikini Lens Cover w/ Purchase
$373.95 
Add Aimpoint 9000SC 30mm Red Dot Sight to Cart 
Leupold 2.5x28 FX-II Scout Scope Duplex Leupold 2.5x28 FX-II Scout Scope
Stock # - LEU58810
  • Matte
  • Duplex
  • 1"
  • Multi-Coat 4 Lens System
$279.95 
Add Leupold 2.5x28 FX-II Scout Scope to Cart 
Burris 2.75x20 Scout Scope Heavy Plex Burris 2.75x20 Scout Scope
Stock # - 200269
  • Matte
  • Heavy Plex
  • 1"
$249.95 
Add Burris 2.75x20 Scout Scope to Cart 
The above would be good choices for a scout not that there are not some other choices. The issue with mounting a traditional optic like one of the  Super Sniper models on any type of M1a is there is a huge problem with cheekweld.  That can be solved by a karsten cheek piece and a good base that mounts from the side of the reciever.  I like Smith Enterprises mount however Sadlac is reported very good and Arms should be useable and none of the good ones is cheap. Then there is the cost or rings Badger Ordnance would be best but Warne would do the job as would a few others.  The advantage that a variable power scope has over a fixed power scope is that it can have the power dialed down to about 6x to make it brighter in low light or that it can be dialed down to 3x to make it have a wider field of view and to be able to acquire closer targets more rapidly.  Nothing beats an illuminated red dot (EoTech Aimpont Trijicon) these are the scopes the military uses and they are tough and quick.  I prefer the Trijicon and the Aimpoint but a lot of guys prefer the EoTech and there are valid reasons to select each one.  The Aimpoint I listed above mounts using two 30mm rings  Warne is good Badger is better.  It lays really flat Zero it at 200 yds and figure about 8 to 10 inches drop at 300 and a couple inches high at close range but that wont matter.  Where a traditional optic shines is out past 300 yds but that isnt self defense range that is hunting sniping range.  Note Leupold will allow scout scopes to be ordered with the custom dial feature which allows you to dial in correction for distance at the cost of about a hundred bucks more.  On that particular rifle I'd say stay with a scout scope or the red dot.
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Good post Wes, very helpful.
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No SHTF weapon should have a fixed 10X, in my opinion.

The 3-9 is a good "all around" range, not bad for close up, not bad for far (enough) away.

If it will be a CQB weapon, you need a red dot, great for close up, "good enough" for 200-300 yards.
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