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   I am trying to come up with a good riflescope for around $400-$500 no more.  A couple that i had in mind were the Nikon Monarch 6.5-20 and the busnell 4200 with the same power.  I would prefer a mildot reticle but a duplex will suffice if it is reletivly fine.  I would also like side focus and see i can get that in the busnell but not the nikon.  Are there any other scopes that i should be looking into?  I would like to stay with atleast 18-20 magnification too so that limits my choices too.  There arent any good places around here to get a good hands on feel for the scopes so im open to all the info you can give me.  From what ive read on here both the nikon and the bushnell 4200 seem to be good optics but im not sure which is better and specifically why. Thanks for any help you can give me, Major    
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Either of these should be a nice scope although I would probably prefer the Nikon:

6586 New Nikon 5.5-16.5x44 Monarch UCC Riflescope New Nikon 5.5-16.5x44 Monarch UCC Riflescope
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6576 Nikon 6.5-20x44 Monarch UCC Riflescope Nikon 6.5-20x44 Monarch UCC Riflescope
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  • 1"
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If you use a rangefinder rather than mil dot ranging the BDC reticle is nice for known holdover and the Nikon adjustment knobs are quite nice. I would probably go 5.5-16.5 and feel that truely needing more power is not likely unless you are putting it on a 1/4moa gun from Tac Ops or GAP and then you would be looking at true tactical scopes.
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It happens that not too long ago I compared these two scopes, side by side at the range.

 

Here's a link to the thread ...

 

http://opticstalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4104&PN=1

 

Just my opinion and thoughts ... but I returned the the Nikon and went with a second 6-24x40 Elite 4200.

 

My shooting is just about exclusively 100 yard range ... if you have any specifics ask away ...

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 I decided to go with the bushnell 4200 with the side focus and mildots.  So far im happy with the scope i hope to get some range time on tomorrow or on saturday.  I cant believe how much eye relied it has.  Its almost on the edge of having too much.  My decision was partly based on your review of the two optics and the fact that i could get mildots and a side focus.  I called Nikon and the BDC reticle was too thick for my tastes and i dont think i would use those as much as i would mildots.  Im just more comfortable with those.  The bushnells reticle could stand to be a little thinner but how it is will probably help in low light.  

 

The scope went on a ar-15 that i have put together from a custom built upper from White Oak Armament so its not just a plinking rifle.  

 

Thanks again for writing that review macky that really helped out in the decision with the specifics you gave. 

 

Major         & nbsp;     

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Both are good scopes.  I think that Elite 4200 has better glass.  For the money you pay, you can't get better optical quality than Elite 4200.

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Good choice bikexp98.
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I think you'll find that the center of the crosshairs are fine for centering on the bullseye .... there's enough open area there that it feels real good.

 

BTW .... I used to shoot the scope at 24 power .... would even argue why I needed the 24X .... then one day I shot at 12-14 power.  Got to say that it was more relaxed, plenty of magnification, and easier to stabilize.  So for sure experiment with the different powers and see what feels best for you.   I also have a fixed 10X that I shoot at the range .... that one leaves me wanting just a tad more .... but that's shooting bullseyes ... not game sized targets .... every 1/16" matters to me

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