New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Vari X-111 or Zeis Conquest
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Check GunBroker.com for SWFA's No Reserve and No Minimum bid firearm auctions.

Vari X-111 or Zeis Conquest

 Post Reply Post Reply   Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options Page  1 2>
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/16/2004 at 21:34
dmason57 View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper


Joined: August/16/2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 2
I need professional advise. Which is better. Leupold VX-111 4.5x14 50mmLR or Zeis Conquest 4.5x14 44mmAO? I have been reading all the specs and the price is about the same for the duplex and Z-Plex scopes.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/16/2004 at 22:42
ranburr View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master


Joined: May/16/2004
Status: Offline
Points: 1082

I don't know how professional this is, but the Zeiss is a superior scope.  It is brighter, clearer and has a longer constant eye relief.  The leupold is a very good scope, but I switched to Zeiss a few years ago and I have never looked back.

ranburr

 

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/17/2004 at 15:13
redneckbmxer24 View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: June/02/2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1055

strongly agree with ranburr, love the constant eye relief of the conquest.

cory

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/17/2004 at 20:07
SPAD View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper


Joined: July/31/2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 13
I own both scopes.  They are both excellent.  I would have to go with the Leupold being that you stated the VX-III "LR".  I would rather have a 30mm scope than a one inch scope in this case.  Like I said before I have both of these scopes and neither of them is for sale. 

SPAD
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/17/2004 at 22:07
Roy Finn View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar
Steiner Junkie

Joined: April/05/2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 4856
I have to back ranburr on this one no matter how much I lov my Elite 4200's. They are not in the same league!!!
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/17/2004 at 23:35
ranburr View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master


Joined: May/16/2004
Status: Offline
Points: 1082

The paramedics declared me legally dead for two minutes!  Roy, you are not in my will so please stop trying to give me a heart attack!

ranburr

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/18/2004 at 09:04
Roy Finn View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar
Steiner Junkie

Joined: April/05/2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 4856
ranburr, don't misread my statement. The Leupold is not in the same league as the Zeiss. The 4200's blow them all away! Now your heart is back on track I'll bet!!! Talk to ya soon.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/18/2004 at 20:17
dmason57 View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper


Joined: August/16/2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 2
Thank you for the input. I sure like both scopes. I own an older VX-111 in a 40mmAO. I will go by the Bass Pro Shop and look very close at all of them. I am leaning toward the Zeiss right now.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/18/2004 at 20:21
redneckbmxer24 View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: June/02/2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1055

good idea, jsut remember, you cant go wrong with either of them, but the zeiss is just the better value IMHO. dont just look at those scope, compare others, and see which one best fits your eye.

cory

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/21/2004 at 15:06
Chris Farris View Drop Down
TEAM SWFA - Admin
TEAM SWFA - Admin
Avatar
swfa.com

Joined: October/01/2003
Location: Texas
Status: Offline
Points: 7765

Leupold has more adjustment travel

Zeiss is brighter when both scopes are emitting same size exit pupil

Zeiss has constant eye relief

Zeiss has Euro. fast focus eye piece

Leupold has larget objective meaning larger exit pupil and brighter on powers over 6.5

Both have side focus, life time transferable warranty.

I would say it really depends on what you are doing with the scope.

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/21/2004 at 20:20
redneckbmxer24 View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: June/02/2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1055

dont forget who has the best customer servie

cory

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/25/2004 at 11:00
Chris Farris View Drop Down
TEAM SWFA - Admin
TEAM SWFA - Admin
Avatar
swfa.com

Joined: October/01/2003
Location: Texas
Status: Offline
Points: 7765
...true and in case someone out there does not know, it's LEUPOLD.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/29/2004 at 02:41
ClutterMonkey View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper
Avatar

Joined: August/28/2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 16

On the subject of VariX-IIIs the varminters reticle is calibrated for 40gr vmax. But because of barrel erosion Im not sending vmax through my SR-15. Do I go UP to mark 4s to get mil dot? Or go down to 1inch main tube and get a Zeiss? Also which power range should I get for target or varmints at 300 yards? 4.5-14 should do it right? Trying to keep my rifles total cost under $3000 would be nice. Any ideas?

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/29/2004 at 16:49
Chris Farris View Drop Down
TEAM SWFA - Admin
TEAM SWFA - Admin
Avatar
swfa.com

Joined: October/01/2003
Location: Texas
Status: Offline
Points: 7765

4.5-14 power range is perfect for target and varmints out to 300 yards.  You do not need a 30mm tube for that range either.  Save the money and go with a 4.5-14 with a one inch tube.  The Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x44 Side Focus, Mil Dot would be perfect.

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/02/2004 at 17:25
redneckbmxer24 View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: June/02/2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1055

cluttermonkey, if you dont want to spend the money for a the conquest 4.5-14, check out the leupold PR 4.5-14x40, it has a 30mm tube, side focus, mildot reticle, and free leupold acc. for 689.99.

 

cory

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/03/2004 at 00:06
ClutterMonkey View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper
Avatar

Joined: August/28/2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 16
Since reading up on scopes and technologies used to make them and features ive become attached to 2nd plane reticles seeing as they dont ever change. Still about 18 days till my rifles expected delivery. Any suggestions on  rings for the zeiss? Badgers with the inserts will go direclty onto KACs RAS? I just recently got into rifles, been a pistol guy for the last 10 years i have 50 pistols and 3 rifles, go figure. -Clutter
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/05/2004 at 05:16
kokdyer View Drop Down
Optics Apprentice
Optics Apprentice
Avatar

Joined: August/28/2004
Location: Spain
Status: Offline
Points: 39
I have a Zeiss Conquest 3-9 on a 6 pound 338, and a Leupold VARI-X III 3-9 on a M70 Supergrade 300 Win.  The Zeiss is twice the scope.  If you going to spend $500, get a Kahles, Docter, Zeiss, or Burris.  All you get from Leupold for $500 is name recognition and a box with a fresh steamer on the inside and Guarantee in 12 inch letters on the outside.  It's a hell of a Guarantee though!
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/05/2004 at 09:35
redneckbmxer24 View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: June/02/2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1055

you do mean VXII right, because leupold has never made a VXIII in 3-9.

 

cory

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/05/2004 at 13:31
kokdyer View Drop Down
Optics Apprentice
Optics Apprentice
Avatar

Joined: August/28/2004
Location: Spain
Status: Offline
Points: 39

That was my mistake I meant 3.5-10. VARI-X III.  I got in on a trade when I bought an A-Bolt, sold the A-Bolt (it's not a real gun anyway), and kept the scope.  It's on my 300 now.

 

Good catch!  I can't think and type at the same time!

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/05/2004 at 17:10
redneckbmxer24 View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: June/02/2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1055

you think your typings bad, check out mine. the worst part is im too lazy to spell check it. that little button is so close, but so far. i figured you jsut missed an I, but i just wanted to make sure.

 

cory

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/05/2004 at 17:30
gamecock View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper


Joined: September/05/2004
Status: Offline
Points: 1
This is semi-related to this topic. I am trying to decide between the Zeiss 3-9x40 and the Zeiss 3.5-10x44 with the main decider being which scope will provide the best shooting at dusk (which scope will allow shooting the latest in the evening).  My normal hunting condition is in fairly thick cover at shooting ranges normally between 50 and 75 yards, where it gets dark very early compared to the open areas. Occasionally I hunt on a powerline with ranges up to 150 yards but that isn't my prime concern. Also, I currently have a .270 equipped with a Nikon Monarch UCC 3-9x40 which is priced considerably less than the Zeiss. I haven't seen much discussion on the Nikon series, should I expect a marked improvement with the Zeiss?
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/05/2004 at 17:41
ranburr View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master


Joined: May/16/2004
Status: Offline
Points: 1082

The Nikon is a very good scope.  The Zeiss is better.  You will see little or no difference between the two Zeiss scopes.  I liked my first 3-9x40 Zeiss so much that I bought five more.

 

ranburr

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/05/2004 at 22:14
redneckbmxer24 View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: June/02/2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1055

which ever scope has the highest exit pupil will be the best in low light, and to be honest with you, i cant remember how you calculate it, i remeber chris posting it on here (BTW, i wouldnt mind seeing that info again). i would buy the 3-9x40, and never look back, and save some money while doing it.

 

cory

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/08/2004 at 13:00
Chris Farris View Drop Down
TEAM SWFA - Admin
TEAM SWFA - Admin
Avatar
swfa.com

Joined: October/01/2003
Location: Texas
Status: Offline
Points: 7765

Exit pupil is the product of the objective lens size divided by the power the scope is set on.

 

IE:  a 3-9x50 set on 7x will produce a 7.14 exit pupil (50/7=7.14)

 

Same formula for a fixed power scopes or binocular.

 

a 10x42 binocular will have a 4.2mm exit pupil (42/10=4.2)

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/08/2004 at 13:17
redneckbmxer24 View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: June/02/2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1055

thanks, chris

 

cory

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  1 2>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Similar Threads: "Vari X-111 or Zeis Conquest"
Subject Author Forum Replies Last Post
Vari-X 6 vs Vari-X 3 PaleRider Rifle Scopes 6
Zeis scopes MOA Wvladimire Tactical Scopes 0 6/10/2007 11:53:10 AM
zeis meopta minox mosdawg Rifle Scopes 19
Leupold Vari-X3 III 2.5 - 8 x36 cjsudhop Rifle Scopes 11
FS: Conquest HD 10x42's bwilliams1848 Optics For Sale 0
Leup. VARI-XIII 4.5 x 14 Adjustments bpm990d Tactical Scopes 4
Difference of Vari XII & VXII workingmanGary Rifle Scopes 5
"Vari XII" robbie Rifle Scopes 2
Leupold Vari-X III 33shooter Rifle Scopes 15
Replacing my Vari X III BobbyH Rifle Scopes 10


This page was generated in 0.375 seconds.