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Beautiful. Curious though they don't have an extended magwell? 
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That is because Marines are expected to be able to find the hole...Any hole, anywhere!
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Originally posted by billyburl2 billyburl2 wrote:

That is because Marines are expected to be able to find the hole...Any hole, anywhere!

Ah....Big Grin
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Is that a long slide?
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Originally posted by budperm budperm wrote:

Is that a long slide?
No. It's the size that real pistols are supposed to be. Like John Browning designed it, and Colt made it.
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My Colt has a 4 1/4" slide,Commander Big Smile
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I drooled over a bunch of 1911s over the weekend because of this thread.
Good thing they were under glass.
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Can never have enough 1911's.I cut my teeth on my first 1911 when I was in service[65'/69']One great thing about the 45acp ,if you don't kill 'em,you will make them do one hell of a funny dance Wink
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Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

I drooled over a bunch of 1911s over the weekend because of this thread.
Good thing they were under glass.
Woman in the next firing lane handed me her new Remington 1911 to shoot, last week. I sure liked it.

Spec Ops troops led the way back to the truth when they started using 1911's over the Europellets. It's good to see the Marines following suit... only so much political correctness a guy can take.

Call me old- fashioned- I'm not too sure I like that rail- make mine uncluttered.


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Yikes.  What is next? Will the military go back to revolvers? Bow and arrow as standard issue equipment?

I can see a 1911 put to proper use by specialized troops, but as a general issue handgun...  I don't know.

Now, mind you, I am sure it is a good replacement for the Beretta, but that defines setting the bar pretty low.

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Yikes.  What is next? Will the military go back to revolvers? Bow and arrow as standard issue equipment?

I can see a 1911 put to proper use by specialized troops, but as a general issue handgun...  I don't know.

Now, mind you, I am sure it is a good replacement for the Beretta, but that defines setting the bar pretty low.

ILya

As much as I love the 1911, I agree. Glocks would be a better all around sidearm, at least in terms of maintenance. Wouldn't it? 
The IDF uses Glocks, but reportedly have a low regard for hand guns over all, as do I. Big Grin   

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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Yikes.  What is next? Will the military go back to revolvers? Bow and arrow as standard issue equipment?

I can see a 1911 put to proper use by specialized troops, but as a general issue handgun...  I don't know.

Now, mind you, I am sure it is a good replacement for the Beretta, but that defines setting the bar pretty low.

ILya

As much as I love the 1911, I agree. Glocks would be a better all around sidearm, at least in terms of maintenance. Wouldn't it? 
The IDF uses Glocks, but reportedly have a low regard for hand guns over all, as do I. Big Grin   


Double yikes:  Cheaptrick and I actually agree on something...

Handgun is a perfectly respectable secondary firearm to people who carry a rifle around.  It also becomes pretty important in a pinch if you do not have your rifle with you (or if your specific duty involves humping around something sufficiently big and heavy that you might not have your rifle with you most of the time).

A handgun has one thing going for it: portability.  Another thing that it used to have going for it was a fair number of rounds in a compact package.  The choice of the 1911 as a standard sidearm takes care of that one though.

Personally, I am pretty big on Glocks, but there are plenty of well engineered service handguns out there: Sig P226, CZ75BD, etc.  

From a maintenance standpoint, Glock is the only handgun I know of that someone without opposable thumbs (i.e. me) can completely disassemble and replace any of the parts.

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I agree, but would submit that the handgun is the most difficult firearm to master. Easier to instruct the unwashed masses proficiency with a rifle, IMO. 

Pistols are for shooting your way to your rifle....there...I said it. Big Grin    


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Say what you want but I doubt very much  the block will last a hundred years like the 1911 Get Your Popcorn Ready
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Originally posted by stickbow46 stickbow46 wrote:

Say what you want but I doubt very much  the block will last a hundred years like the 1911 Get Your Popcorn Ready

Hmm... Leverguns have been around since the 19th century.  I am not sure that is a good reason to adopt them as a general purpose firearm for the military.

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Potato.....Patato,glad to see them back,it's just too bad our people are not allowed to use HP's & +P ammo with those relics .Browning designed that hand gun to stop on commers dead in their tracks with ball ammo unlike the 9mm crowd,which it still does even to this day.
 
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Many militaries, many times have tried to replace the pistol, yet the pistol is still around and more important than ever. In the CQB role, the pistol in many cases is prefered over the M4 or other long guns, because of it's compactness. While there is no doubt that almost any rifle is more effective than almost any pistol; there are times when a pistol is the prefered weapon for the situation.
While I agree that there are many .45 ACP pistols that would be a better choice for the type of use they are intending it for. I believe they were also considering logistics and already available training that is already in place.
Oh, I also believe Glocks will be around in a century or two too.
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Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

Many militaries, many times have tried to replace the pistol, yet the pistol is still around and more important than ever. In the CQB role, the pistol in many cases is prefered over the M4 or other long guns, because of it's compactness. While there is no doubt that almost any rifle is more effective than almost any pistol; there are times when a pistol is the prefered weapon for the situation.
While I agree that there are many .45 ACP pistols that would be a better choice for the type of use they are intending it for. I believe they were also considering logistics and already available training that is already in place.
Oh, I also believe Glocks will be around in a century or two too.

With all due respect, my friend, what are some of the "many" CQB situations where a handgun is preferred over an AR or shotgun? And who are these individuals who prefer this? 
Serving a warrant on a bad guy in a phone booth? Wink

  
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