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I got a new (used) Burris Signature Select and put it on my SAKO. I went to sight it in. I got it almost to zero at 50 yards and it ran out of left and down adjustment. I tried another scope to see if it would zero and it did with no problem. (therefore the mounts should be ok, right?) I am very upset that I cannot zero this scope. Any suggestions are appreciated!
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http://www.burrisoptics.com/warranty.html

this says all you need to know you can send it in even if you arent the original owner and they should fix you up, i have a ffII that i wouldnt trade for the world great scope for the price imo. see if there cs dept is worth a damn so i will know if i ever have a problem with my scope

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Hokkmike check to see how many total clicks of adjustment you have and make sure you started in the middle of the adjustment range. The scope could possibly have been near the end of the adjustment range when you recieved it. Just a suggestion maybe this will help you!
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Different scopes have different adjustment ranges.  What are the exact scope models you used?  What are the mounts?

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Different scopes have different adjustment ranges.  What are the exact scope models you used?  What are the mounts?

ILya

 

Burris Signature Select 8X32X44 on Leupold SAKO rings. The other was a Tasco 4X18X50 same mounts. Previously a Leupold VX-III 3.5 X 10 low mounts, same brand.

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The higher the magnification of the scope, the lower the adjustment range.  The Burris scope in question has the adjustment range of only 22" at 100 yards (or 11" at 50 yards).

Typically, for a scope of such high magnification (not sure what you would need that magnification for other than benchrest), you would want to dial in with the bases or rings (Burris Signature rings with varying plastic inserts work well), and use the scope's internal adjustments for the final adjustment.

I am not sure what the adjustment range of that Tasco is (I am assuming you meant a 4-16x50), but it is probably quite a bit higher, since the magnification is much lower.  Same for the Leupold.

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Here is the response I got from Burris. I think they are trying to be as helpful as they can. Also, the information is very instructive, so I thought I would share it with you.

 

"You yourself can very easily verify that the scope is or is not performing properly. With a higher magnification scope the less internal adjustment it will have, this particular scope will have a total of 22” adjustment or 11” adjustment in any direction from optical center. So if the scope were optically centered and your first group of shots are more then 11” from the bulls-eye you will not get sighted in without first more closely aligning the scope and bore. The Signature series scopes have larger internal lenses which increase light transmission but decrease internal adjustment unlike the test scope which will have a ton of adjustment but uses tiny internal lenses. Now test the scope, the only way the scope will not have its full range of adjustment is if it is physically bent. Place the scope on a V-block and spin it, if the eyepiece or objective visibly spin in an oblong pattern then its bent, if not verify the internal adjustment. Using the same V-block (one can be made with a shoe box) spin the scope this time watching the pattern the reticle makes on a distant target. Turn the adjustments until the pattern of the reticle moving against the target is round or more precisely doesn’t move on the target. From here simply turn a adjustment until it stops watching how far it moves across the target, it should move no less then 11”. This can also be done using a bore sighter. When you find the scope does have its full range of adjustment the mounting system must be closer aligned with the bore by using windage adjustable mounts, lapping the rings, shimming the scope, or using Signature Posi-Align rings. If you find a problem or still believe there is a problem with the scope we will gladly review the scope if you would have it sent to the address below."

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check it out and send it in is what i would do.
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Burris Double Dovetail 2 Piece Base 410587 
Stock # Price   Sako with dovetail receiver (Long or Short Action)  
410587 $29.95 < id=Quantity size=3 value=1 name=Quantity>
This base will adapt SAKO dovetail to Double Dovetail then you can use the Signature rings with the plastic inserts to shim the scope different directions. If you have a boresight tool it will be easier to do but it can be done on the range without one. Koshkin was right on with his assessment. A scope like this requires special care in the manner in which it is mounted.

 

 

 

 

 

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