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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/30/2012 at 16:27
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Model 20 Rifle (The Ultimate Mountain Rifle) - built upon an intermediate length action. It is designed for exceptional accuracy with .308 class cartridges, yet maintains an extremely light weight. The action weighs a modest 20 ounces, and the finished rifle is only 5 pounds. Featuring a 3- inch magazine, the Ultimate Mountain rifle is available in all .308 length calibers, including .243 Winchester, 6mm Remington, .257 Roberts, 7mm-08, and .284. A 3 inch magazine is featured to allow extra versatility during load development.

Model 20 Short (The Ultimate Mountain Rifle) - a short action rifle that is designed for the absolute utmost in portablility and accuracy. The action itself weighs a mere twenty ounces in finished form, with completed rifle scaling 4.75 pounds before the scope is added. The Ultimate Mountain Rifle is available in short action calibers from .17 Remington through .223 Remington.

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  I don't know anybody who has one so I've never had the oppurtunity shoot one but did have a chance to handle one of his earliest rifles(early 80's) when his company was still Ultralight Arms.  It was at a local sporting goods store.  Chambered in .284 Win,it had a 3-9x40 Vari-X II on it and I can tell you it was the real deal.  Just over 6lbs if I remember right. 
  Here's something you may want to look at. 
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"Model 20 Short Ultimate Mountain Rifle"Stare
So what pray tell does one hunt in the mountains with a 17 Rem through .223 - not exactly an elk cartridge is it.
Im thinking  Tikka T3  300 WSM, 300 WM,  338 Win Mag   6  3/8 lbs   That 338 will have some thump to it and take down anything on the mountain.
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/30/2012 at 19:28
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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

"Model 20 Short Ultimate Mountain Rifle"Stare
So what pray tell does one hunt in the mountains with a 17 Rem through .223 - not exactly an elk cartridge is it.


The dreaded Mountain Pocket Gopher......
Dynamite comes in small packages, my Mother used to say....


 
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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

"Model 20 Short Ultimate Mountain Rifle"Stare
So what pray tell does one hunt in the mountains with a 17 Rem through .223 - not exactly an elk cartridge is it.
Im thinking  Tikka T3  300 WSM, 300 WM,  338 Win Mag   6  3/8 lbs   That 338 will have some thump to it and take down anything on the mountain.

Not legal for elk.
I was thinking deer(whitetail/blacktail/mule) coyote mountain lion.
They look like good rifles.
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NULA makes awesome rifles still.
 
That 5 pound 7-08 would be a great mountain gun for everything from mice (or mountain pocket gophers) to moose.
 
.223 for deer?  I guess it would work in a pinch (maybe a barnes TSX), but I'll pass on that one.
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Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

NULA makes awesome rifles still.
 
That 5 pound 7-08 would be a great mountain gun for everything from mice (or mountain pocket gophers) to moose.
 
.223 for deer?  I guess it would work in a pinch (maybe a barnes TSX), but I'll pass on that one.


My dad had a quad by-pass heart surgery two years ago. He used .257 and .300 wby but he was told he could not handle the recoil any more by the doctor so, he has used a .204 on his last 3 mule deer with no problems. He doesn't use a range finder but, he said they were all around 250-ish.
After seeing that I would have no problem using a .223.
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.204 on deer............bah humbug! You are pushing light weight to an extreme there!
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Rustic, you need to provide proof of this exploit. Or, you sir, are a troll and will be dealt with.
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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

.204 on deer............bah humbug! You are pushing light weight to an extreme there!

South Dakota-
Shoulder-held firearms using ammunition factory rated
to produce at least 1,000 foot-pounds of energy at the muzzle may be used to hunt deer and antelope.

The proof is in the freezer... it is all about shot placement. Years ago I heard the exact same thing about the 22-250. Now it is one the more common cartridges I see out west for deer.


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Originally posted by rustic rustic wrote:

Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

.204 on deer............bah humbug! You are pushing light weight to an extreme there!

South Dakota-
Shoulder-held firearms using ammunition factory rated
to produce at least 1,000 foot-pounds of energy at the muzzle may be used to hunt deer and antelope.


It also states that only soft point or expanding bullets are permitted for deer hunting.
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Originally posted by rustic rustic wrote:

Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

.204 on deer............bah humbug! You are pushing light weight to an extreme there!

South Dakota-
Shoulder-held firearms using ammunition factory rated
to produce at least 1,000 foot-pounds of energy at the muzzle may be used to hunt deer and antelope.

The proof is in the freezer... it is all about shot placement. Years ago I heard the exact same thing about the 22-250. Now it is one the more common cartridges I see out west for deer.


 
Really?
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And your I.P. shows Georgia?
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I called him this is what he used... perfectly legal. A very impressive cartridge with a lot people using them for deer. He said he was reading something in north american hunter magazine that is where he got the idea for using it for deer hunting after his surgery because he needed something with no recoil.
http://www.hornady.com/store/204-Ruger-40-gr-V-MAX/
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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

And your I.P. shows Georgia?


Look it up. They supply cable to western SD(sturgis).

http://www.knology.com/
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According to this from the Hornady website "Hornady’s V-MAX bullets consistently achieve rapid fragmentation at all practical varmint shooting velocities.

Are bullets that fragment considered soft point or expanding bullets?
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Where is the meat in the freezer or pics from the hunt, sir? All of us other regulars have posted our pics. Don't bother pasting regulations, it doesn't work here . Once again, proof.
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Originally posted by Sparky Sparky wrote:

According to this from the Hornady website "Hornady’s V-MAX bullets consistently achieve rapid fragmentation at all practical varmint shooting velocities.

Are bullets that fragment considered soft point or expanding bullets?

Berger VLD Hunting Bullets - VLD bullets are proving to be the most lethal big game hunting bullet available. The VLD design incorporates a sharp nose that allows the bullet to penetrate up to 3 inches before it starts to expand. This delayed expansion results in a wound channel that is deep inside the vital area of any big game. After the bullet starts to expand it will shed 80% to 90% of its weight into the surrounding tissue traveling as deep as 18 inches.


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Once again we have a quote from not only state regulations, but a manufacturers website. Rustic, I am still calling you out for proof of this .204 exploit on 250 lb. deer! BTW, a .257 is a pussycat, even in the Wby guise!
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One if you are using Berger VLD bullets then why did you list the Hornady website???

Two I looked on the Berger website and they do not list a VLD bullet for the .204 cal.


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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

Once again we have a quote from not only state regulations, but a manufacturers website. Rustic, I am still calling you out for proof of this .204 exploit on 250 lb. deer! BTW, a .257 is a pussycat, even in the Wby guise!


OK! I will post pic of the deer in the mourning.
I would call the the .257 ballistics above average. 115 gr
http://www.weatherby.com/product/ammunition/ballistic?ammo1=.257+Wby.&ammo2=.257+Wby.&compare=Compare
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Originally posted by Sparky Sparky wrote:

One if you are using Berger VLD bullets then why did you list the Hornady website???

Two I looked on the Berger website and they do not list a VLD bullet for the .204 cal.



You are the one that said "Are bullets that fragment considered soft point or expanding bullets?"
It is basically the same type of bullet --- releasing all energy into the animal.
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If you consider the recoil energy of a .270 WIN, and the .257 Wby has less in equal weight rifles, it is indeed brutal.
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