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I just picked up a new 700 VSSF in .223. This is my first centerfire bolt action, and I picked it up for low cost/low recoil paper punching out to around 300 yards plus possible future varmint hunting. Iím a long-time handgunner thatís trying to come to grips with the effects of middle age, thus the long gun. My ARs and FAL are fun, but itís time for something a little more precise! One big attraction for me is accurate first shot placement Ė more "tactical" style shooting than anything else.

 

I really like the Zeiss line, and their Conquest series is actually a pretty good deal when you compare prices to other quality scopes. I'm thinking a 4.5-14x44 SF would be about perfect, although I wonder if I'd do better with a 6.5-20x50 SF if I head out to SD for prairie poodles. Iíve been able to handle the 4.5-14, but havenít found a 6.5-20 to check out. (I like SWFAís pricing and selection, so itíll be bought from them.) In either case, Iíd probably be getting a Mil-Dot model with target turrets. The ZRF reticle is interesting, but I think Iíd do better by learning Mil-Dot techniques instead.

 

One thing thatís concerning me is image brightness. Can anyone comment on the relative brightness between these two scopes at a given magnification? Also, how picky is the 6.5-20 about eye placement compared to the 4.5-14?  Any comments at all comparing these two would be great.

 

Another question is what scope base to use. Iím pretty set on Badger for the Picatinny base and rings, or maybe Warne. Iím obviously not going to be using this rifle at 1000 yards, but I wouldnít be surprised at occasional attempts at perforating paper or dirt clods at 500 yards (I like a challenge). Would a 20 MOA base be appropriate? I suspect thereís a formula I need to apply to answer this, so any help would be appreciated Ė Iím trying to learn.

 

Thanks!

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For 300 yards or less, I'd take the 4.5-14 with side focus. I have never owned this model, but have used a friends. Mine was a 3.5-10x44mm SS model, and I loved it.

 

Of course, theres nothing wrong with the higher mag either. That's just me. Less is more at those distances.

 

Badger rings are the heat!!!!

I'd get the 20 moa rail. It's good to have, and costs the same. Or they did when I bought mine.

You might switch scopes or rails some day.

 

Both scopes have a fixed 4" eye relief, so that won't be a problem.

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Well, I had an interesting experience tonight at a local dealer.

 

First, I've decided 14 or 16 at the long end will be plenty for this rifle.

 

Second, I had a chance to play with a Nikon Tactical 4-16x50, and was very impressed.

 

How does the Nikon Tactical 4-16x50 compare to a Conquest 4.5x14x44?  I still haven't found a Conquest with the target knobs, so I don't know if the Zeiss will have a comparable "feel".  I want to get into Mil-Dot shooting, and will be doing a lot of knob twisting.

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While I think that the Conquest is a great scope.

For a "tactical" scope, I'd go with the Nikon.

I like the knobs better on the Nikon. Other than that, both scopes would serve you well. 

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