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Hello, to everybody !

This is my first post and I'm writing from Bulgaria, so please excuse my not so good english...
 
I need a scope for a really low light hunting and have about  800 bucks to spend
After a couple of hours reading this forum I'm after Trijicon TR22-1, TR22-2 or TR22R
Is there any better scope(should be illuminated) in this price tag or if it is not which of above reticles is better for low light\night  hunting
I also wanna know about this reticles in which focal plane are they, becouse I don't like magnification of  the reticle when zooming
 
P.S Is a Fenix TA21 flashlight a good bargain for its money and durable enough to put on a 30-06 ?
 
Thanks in advance !
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That is pretty much the best illumination available.  And in your price range probably the best scope for your needs.  You would need to spend a lot more money to get a scope with much of an increase in glass quality which would help in the low light.

The reticle in is the 2nd focal plane.  I would probably go with green as it has been proven as one of the best colors for the human eye to see in low light.
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But if the reticle is in the second focal plane(no reticle magnyfying during zooming), why their brochure says - reticle dimensions dot 1.4 MOA to 0.4 MOA ?
 
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Because when the reticle magnifies during zooming (first focal plane), its size is changing at the same rate as the target image, because the target and reticle are on the same focal plane.  The reticle therefore always remains the same size relative to the target and subtends the same dimensions over the target at all magnifications.  With a non-magnifying reticle (2nd focal plane), as the Trijicon has, the reticle stays the same size to your eye during changes in magnification, but doesn't stay the same size relative to the target image, since they are on different focal planes.  So, as you increase magnification, the target image becomes larger but the reticle doesn't and therefore covers less of the target at higher magnification.


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you are looking at the right scope
I like the green dot the best
I have tried the triangle and just can't get used to it


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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Because when the reticle magnifies during zooming (first focal plane), its size is changing at the same rate as the target image, because the target and reticle are on the same focal plane.  The reticle therefore always remains the same size relative to the target and subtends the same dimensions over the target at all magnifications.  With a non-magnifying reticle (2nd focal plane), as the Trijicon has, the reticle stays the same size to your eye during changes in magnification, but doesn't stay the same size relative to the target image, since they are on different focal planes.  So, as you increase magnification, the target image becomes larger but the reticle doesn't and therefore covers less of the target at higher magnification.




Now that is an excellent explanation  Excellent
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We have one for pig hunting. One word of caution. You mentioned a flashlight on your weapon. The recticle does wash out quite abit looking into a lit up area in the dark.
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I've pretty much come to the concusion that the Trijicon 2.5-10x56 with green dot is the best low light hunting scope available at any price. My Zeiss Victory with 50mm objective is not any brighter (and it cost over three times as much),  the illum dot is not sharp at all and you have to remember to turn it on and off..................

Being into hog hunting I've tried most brands and models, my picks are the Trijicon, Bushnell 4200 Elite 2.5-10x50 illum and the new Burris Fullfield Euro 30 3.5-10x50 #4 illum. The new Burris is very bright,  has a user friendly illum reticle and is VERY lightweight.

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I already ordered a TR22-1 and just hope that amber dot is as good as green one
Also ordered Fenix TA21 flashlight
 
Is the original CZ 550 UHR 1 PIECE RING MOUNT 30MM high enough to mount this scope on a CZ 550  30-06 ?
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Green dot is quite a bit easier to see than the amber one.
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Mr. Wilson, been waiting to see how you felt about the Fullfield Euro 30.  Sounds like you really enjoy it and it's a good one for the price.
 
A80 you should definitely get in touch with CZ-USA and see what they say for that mount.  I've never seen it mentioned or seen pictures of it in use, it does seem fairly low though...but I think it will just barely fit.
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Originally posted by danjojoUSMC danjojoUSMC wrote:

Mr. Wilson, been waiting to see how you felt about the Fullfield Euro 30.  Sounds like you really enjoy it and it's a good one for the price.
 
A80 you should definitely get in touch with CZ-USA and see what they say for that mount.  I've never seen it mentioned or seen pictures of it in use, it does seem fairly low though...but I think it will just barely fit.
I have two of them in service right now on 6.8 ARs I'm using for hog/deer hunting and they are very bright and clear and the illum is user friendly. I really like the light weight. In the past I have had a lot of problems with Burris illum, but they assure me it is fixed now, so far so good...........
 
If Trijicon would make a 2.5-10x50 with green dot that was no more than 13" long and weighed under 18oz that had optics as good as the Burris it would be the perfect scope for my needs. Not having to turn the dot on has it's advantages............
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Bill...
that's good to hear on the Burris

I agree on the Trijicon
I like your idea of a 2-8x44 as well
or 1.5-6x42
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