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Hi guys
 
What are your thoughts on the Trijicon Accupoint scopes in the 2.5-10x56?
 
I am considering one for the 223 but have not heard much of them.
 
What i haveheard has not been great.
 
I have heard, eye relief sucks and i have also heard that the glass is not clear.
 
Any thoughts or experience with them?
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Tagged for interest.
 
Welcome to The OT, Delta.
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Thanks Cheaptrick.
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Eye relief is listed as 4.1 to 2.8, that sounds pretty average to me. 

Who ever said the optics suck must be very picky.  The ones I have looked through have very nice glass.  I have been eying a 1-4x for some time so I have looked through it and the 3-9x several times outside stores and have always thought the optics were very nice. 

Only downside in my opinion to the one you are looking at is the huge objective.  It will require probably high rings which will mean you will need to add a cheek piece to your rifle to get a good cheek weld.  Personally I would get the 3-9x40.
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Thanks for that.
 
The reason i was looking at the 56mm objective is because it will be seeing a lot of low light and spotlight shooting.  Ideally i would like a 50mm but they dont make it.
 
I have an Eagle stock pack that i was going to throw on the rifle as well.
 
How would you rate the glass to say a Leupold VXIII/Mark 4 or a Zeiss Conquest?
 
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I have the scope you are asking about on a custom AR I put together. To my eyes it is probably the most under rated scope on this forum. I believe the optics to be excellent and eye relief substantial. I can literally watch 22 cal bullets punch holes at 100 yds. I own Swarovski and Zeiss Conquest as well and the Accupoint in combination with that rifle is my favorite setup.
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Better than the Leupolds, comparable to the Zeiss.  Another line to look at is Meopta Meostar.  They actually make the glass that goes into the Zeiss Conquest line.  They only have 3.1 of eye relief but the optics are amazing.  And they have the 50mm you want.  http://www.swfa.com/pc-9099-1134-meopta-3-10x50-meostar-r1-30mm-rifle-scope.aspx  I have the Artemus 3000 the optics are very good.  
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Thanks guys.
 
Rockblaster, taking the rifle out of the picture, how does the Trijicon compare to the Zeiss and Swarovski?
 
Supatool73 i have actually lookied through the Meopta and was very impressed.  I completely forgot about that line of optics, thanks.  I wonder how the glass stacks up against the Trijicon.
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Oh the guy that told me the Trijicon glass is not clear was comparing it to a Kahles.
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Originally posted by Delta Delta wrote:

Oh the guy that told me the Trijicon glass is not clear was comparing it to a Kahles.
its probably not as clear as kahles but its still not a bad scope
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I am pretty confident the Meostar will be better than the trijicon.  I have not compared my Meopta Artemus to a trijicon but I have to a bushnell 4200 and it is better.  And I have looked through a Tijicon next to a Bushnell 4200 and I thought they were very close optically.  So the Meostar should be even better.


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While Accupoint is a very fine scope it is a tough comparison against European optics. I have never used a Kahles or Meopta. All I can say is that at its price point it is hard to beat. I would rate the optics as good if not better than my Conquest. 
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Hmmmmmmm thanks for that guys.
 
Supatool, does the Artemus and the Meostar have the same optics?
 
Anyone compared the Meostar to the Trijicon?
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Meostars are Meoptas best scopes, Artemus is the next level down.  
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If your primary purpose is going to be low light shooting, even though I really like Meopta stuff.  I think you would be better off with the Trijicon because of the tritium triangle.  It will fit your needs better.  They really do have nice glass.
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The Trijicon is really a different beast. Yes you can find expensive Euro scopes that will have better glass - well a little better not enough better in anything within a couple of hundred dollars of it though. Where the Accupoint really shines is it has a tritium and fiber optic illuminated reticle. Now that only becomes useful when you actually want your bullet to strike something that might want to move. Targets are stapled in one place animals move. The fact that you do not have to turn on the illumination means that while you are out hunting elk and sleeping in your tent at 3am when a Grizzley decides he wants to join your camping experience you have an illuminated reticle and can come on sight immediately not after you fumble with an on switch.  Of course the fact that you have this illuminated reticle also makes your eye bring the reticle onto target rapidly in heavy brush allowing you to make shots that the world's most expensive euro scopes could never hope to make.
I like the 2.5-10x56 Accupoint really really well.  It is a product that works.
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There you go Delta........ pretty much what you've been looking for!
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The glass in the Accupoint scope is made by LOW, the same place that makes the Elite4200, Elite 6500, Nightforce, etc.  Conquest might be marginally better, but they are too close to call, really.

Meostar is a touch better.  However, for low light shooting, Accupoint with its reticle is one of the better setups I can think of.

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Cool thanks guys, seems the trend is towards the Trijicon.
 
Just to throw a spanner in the works, whats the go with the Meopt Military models?  They are listed on the website but i cant seem to find them anywhere.
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I really believe that the Trijicon Accupoint line is the best deal in the world. I own a Zeiss Diavari Victory and I'm always making comparisons, and it seems that the Accupoint compares favorably under the top end Zeiss, even by European standards. Check out this magazine test from Europe:
 
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Here's the URL of the Goggle HTML version that might be able to be translated with an online translator that translates URLs (I don't recall the language at the moment):

 
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im pretty sure thats a scandinavian language, either swede or finn im guessing
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From what i could understand it actually didnt say many good things about the glass.  Seems they liked the ergonomics and are dazzled by the tritium lit reticle but spoke negatively of the glass.
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My concern is that the Trijicon is popular for the gimmick of the tritium reticle as opposed to the actual quality of the glass.
 
ANyone have anything on the Meopta Military models?
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