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Hello. New member here. I am in the market for a new scope for my DSA FAL .308. I have it kind of narrowed down to the Trijicon AccuPoint 3x9x40 and the SWFA SS 3x9x42. I am wondering if anyone had an suggestions as to which is better, benefits/drawbacks of each, etc. I don't have one of each I Can look at and compare myself. They are both in my price range (between $500-$1000) and I am leaning towards the 3x9 power.

I personally am leaning more towards the Trijicon due to its illumination and having no batteries, while the SWFA has no illumination at all. My coworker is telling me the SWFA has better glass clarity.

Anyone have experience with these that can help me make a decision?
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I should add that I mostly just target shoot but plan to go hunting with this rifle as well.
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Optically they will be pretty close. 

The SS scope is a tactical style scope with tactical style turret adjustments.  The Accupoint is a hunting type scope with covered knobs that a made to be zeroed and for the most part left alone.

So if you just want a scope to zero and leave it at that I would get the trijicon, but if you want to shoot multiple distances and be able to dial in elevation and windage changes the SS is the better choice. 
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So the Trijicon cannot be adjusted on the fly if I decide to go from shooting at 100 yards to 300 yards? I do want to have that option.

I am not familiar with scopes really. I thought I could do all those adjustments on the Trijicon but I would just have to remove the knobs.

I want to be able to shoot anywhere from 100-300 yards accurately.
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They can, you just have to take off the cap and turn the turret or leave the cap off.  It is not a turret like on the SS scope though.  
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Its a covered turret vs and exposed turret.  If you want something with illumination thats close to those two look at this one -
Leupold 3-9x40 VX-R Patrol 30mm Riflescope Leupold 3-9x40 VX-R Patrol 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - LEU113771
  • Matte
  • FireDot TMR
  • 30mm
  • 1-Button Illumination
  • Motion Sensor
  • Index Matched Lens Coatings
  • Lead-Free Edge-Blackened Lenses
$599.95 
 
 
it has illumination that is good and turrets are exposed but not as tall to get in the way. 
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So covered turret vs exposed turret - meaning all I have to do is remove the turret covers and then I can adjust the sight just as I would on the SS scope?

Do any of you all know how the glass of the Trijicon compares with the glass of the SWFA SS?
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correct.  It may not be as easy to adjust the covered turrets of the trijicon.  I cant remember what they look like under the cap.  It is not marked if I remember correct so it will be a counting thing.  If you are going to dial in you want a marked turret wether its capped or not.  Some else may can chime in if it is marked under or not.

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Originally posted by MarshallNole MarshallNole wrote:

Do any of you all know how the glass of the Trijicon compares with the glass of the SWFA SS?


As I said in my first post, they will be very similar.  I have owned both Trijicon and SWFA scopes and there is not much diff. 


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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

Originally posted by MarshallNole MarshallNole wrote:

Do any of you all know how the glass of the Trijicon compares with the glass of the SWFA SS?


As I said in my first post, they will be very similar.  I have owned both Trijicon and SWFA scopes and there is not much diff. 



Missed that. I apologize.

Looks like you can't go wrong with either. Thanks for the input.
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They are both great scopes.  Really it comes down to illumination vs uncovered turrets.  If you want both then that Leupold SVT posted would be a great option.  It will have glass quality that is similar as well.  
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Would either scope work well on this mount?

http://www.americandefensemanufacturing.com/view/product/298/

The following post I found on another thread worried me...

"The Trijicon Accupoint 3x9 is a really nice scope that, imho, works really well for night hunts, but it only has 48 moa of adjustments. It is quite short if you have a 20 moa base - you might run the risk of not making zero (happened to a friend of mine).  "
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I would either use La Rue or BOBRO mounts for your FAL and I would stay with a 30mm tube scope if you possibly can.  Having said that if you zero at 200yds you will only be a tad high at 100 and a few inches low at 300 so almost any scope will work for you without the need to adjust it.  Scopes that have covered capped turrets are best left alone once you zero them at a known distance you learn your hold over for the distances you work at and dont make changes on the fly.  Guys who need to make precision shots use target tactical knobs to dial in correction for both trajectory and wind compensation which requires some effort to know what you are doing at long range.  If all you are concerned with is inside 300 yds then zero it at 200 and go practice shooting out to 300. As for the Trijicon I think the glass in them and in the variable Super Sniper is all very good considering the price to get anything better you would pay more than double the price.  I very much like the illuminated reticles of Trijicon products and I run one of their 1-4x red post scopes on the rifle I use for coyotes shooting at the same type distances you are talking about and it works very well for me.  I also like the 2.5 to 10 x56 much better than the 3-9x42 so I suggest you consider that scope if it is available.  Do call and ask if the scope you want is in stock as this is a time of high demand.
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Is there any particular LaRue QD mount you would suggest for these scopes on a FAL?
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Also, the Trijicon is a 1 inch tube, so I guess that is another drawback..
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Get the slightly forward bobro mount. They are significantly better than larue mounts.
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just to throw it out there, SVT you were right. the VXR patrol i got, the glass was nowhere near the SS, and the reticle is half assed. it wasn't close to the pst 2.5-10.

get the SS or the Viper PST, the patrol doesn't have much adjustment either.

the Viper has good glass and illum, the SS has good-great glass, and no Illum.

i got a WARNE ramp mount, and it's pretty solid for sure.
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Is this the Bobro mount you speak of?

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The Trijicon turrets ARE marked. It's also a good bit lighter than the SS is. On a heavy rifle like yours though, I doubt it will matter.
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[QUOTE=jjrgr21]just to throw it out there, SVT you were right. the VXR patrol i got, the glass was nowhere near the SS, and the reticle is half assed. it wasn't close to the pst 2.5-10.

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Now do you feel the patrol's reticle was not good?  I like the reticle myself.  The glass is not as good but its not far off either.
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I am now leaning towards the SWFA 3x9 with a LaRue LT104 mount.

I just don't know enough about the Bobro mounts to go with that.

The SWFA has a 30mm tube vs the 1inch tube of the AccuPoint 3x9. Plus it has the tactical turrets.

The only benefit I am seeing at the moment to the Trijicon is the illumination and no batteries.
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I promise you the bobro is the better mount.  They have a better attachment system that does not ever need adjusted and it does not mess up the rail like a LaRue does over time from taking it on and off.  I have had several LaRues's (still have a couple) and have two Bobros and the bobro is better in every single way. 

Get the slightly forward model. http://swfa.com/Bobro-Precision-Optic-30mm-Mount-P47627.aspx
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This may be helpful -

 
I would go bobro, larue is known to chew up rails.


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For bench/target work, the SS will be a better fit.  For hunting, I prefer the Accupoint.

Both scopes will function fine in the other roll,  but are not ideal.

Which to get depends on priorities.

Both have very good glass for the price, both of mine (SS3-9 and Accupoint 3-9) track true and have been very durable.

And I agree with SVT, forget the LaRue, they chew up rails and don't return to zero well at all.  I would recommend the Bobro or American Defense Recon.
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