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 Okay, after doing lots of reading, I'm seriously considering purchasing a Trijicon Accu-Point 3-9x40. I've read that the glass is comparable to the 4200, they are well built/durable.
 
 I also like the fact that it's lightweight and has an illuminated reticle thats battery free. Although, I'm uncertain about which reticle, as well as, what color illumination to choose. I'm not sure if I'd be happier with the BAC or the standard crosshair with dot reticle.
 
 The scope will be used for big game hunting which could possibly include a night hog hunt or two. Most shots will probably be taken within 100 yards.
 
 Any, and all opinions are welcome and greatly appreciated.
 
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 Seems like a good choice to me...
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I have one with the amber BAC triangle and I'm very happy with it.  I only have 2 complaints about it.  I wish it had a little less tunnel vision, and I think the "contains tritium" label permanently marked on the objective bell detracts from its appearance.  I don't understand why they didn't just use a decal for that, but maybe the permanent marking is a NRC requirement; I don't know.  
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

I have one with the amber BAC triangle and I'm very happy with it.  I only have 2 complaints about it.  I wish it had a little less tunnel vision, and I think the "contains tritium" label permanently marked on the objective bell detracts from its appearance.  I don't understand why they didn't just use a decal for that, but maybe the permanent marking is a NRC requirement; I don't know.  

just another example of our fine govt. trying to protect us from ourselves and i suppose you could say its another thorn in the side to get people to give up hunting and shooting.
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Sorry, I didn't catch that you were askling about reticle choices.
 I think I'd go with the post with the triangle on it for the hunting you are doing.
 Green or red is more visible than amber in the woods, from what I've heard...
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Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

 Green or red is more visible than amber in the woods, from what I've heard...


I disagree on red.  In my experience, comparing side by side, amber is far more visible than red, which is why I chose it.  At the time I bought mine, green wasn't available yet. 
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I have one mounted on a 7MM, it's GREAT......IMHO- GREAT QUALITY
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I have an amber 3-9 traingle/post for a while
did a hog hunt with it and it worked, dropped both
but I decided I personally don't like the triangle, and that's after having two ACOGs with the chevron reticle, in both red and amber

I sold the 3-9 because I wanted lower power for close and fast action with my 6.8 AR and got the 1-4 TR24.  I went with the German #4 and the green dot

I feel the latter while the green dot is not as big, is still very fast and my brain just seems to like the dot vs the triangle

With the triangle you sight in on the tip and for me personally, my eyes just don't work well with it.. I fill like where I am trying to aim is slipping off the sides... weird, I know

I think you really need to try both in person and see what works for you
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

I have one with the amber BAC triangle and I'm very happy with it.  I only have 2 complaints about it.  I wish it had a little less tunnel vision, and I think the "contains tritium" label permanently marked on the objective bell detracts from its appearance.  I don't understand why they didn't just use a decal for that, but maybe the permanent marking is a NRC requirement; I don't know.  
 
 I have to agree with you 110% on the permanent tritium label, it does look out of place. But at least it's on the bottom of the scope, or at least most of the pics I've seen, the label was on the bottom. Does this make it less obvious or not really?
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 If I were to use a red light for the night hog hunts, would the amber stand out well against the red light?
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Originally posted by medic52 medic52 wrote:

I have one mounted on a 7MM, it's GREAT......IMHO- GREAT QUALITY
 
 What color illumination and which reticle do you have?
 
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Originally posted by ccoker ccoker wrote:

I have an amber 3-9 traingle/post for a while
did a hog hunt with it and it worked, dropped both
but I decided I personally don't like the triangle, and that's after having two ACOGs with the chevron reticle, in both red and amber

I sold the 3-9 because I wanted lower power for close and fast action with my 6.8 AR and got the 1-4 TR24.  I went with the German #4 and the green dot

I feel the latter while the green dot is not as big, is still very fast and my brain just seems to like the dot vs the triangle

With the triangle you sight in on the tip and for me personally, my eyes just don't work well with it.. I fill like where I am trying to aim is slipping off the sides... weird, I know

I think you really need to try both in person and see what works for you
 
 I'd love to see both of them in person, but I doubt if a dealer near me even has one of the previously mentioned scopes in stock, much less both of them side by side. I guess thats the down side of living in a small town.
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Originally posted by ti-force ti-force wrote:

 I have to agree with you 110% on the permanent tritium label, it does look out of place. But at least it's on the bottom of the scope, or at least most of the pics I've seen, the label was on the bottom. Does this make it less obvious or not really?
 
Yes, it is at least on the bottom of the objective end, so it is a little less obvious.  Still, I wish it was a decal that I could remove, because I think it's an eyesore.  The scope is nice enough that I can live with it, though.
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Originally posted by ti-force ti-force wrote:

 If I were to use a red light for the night hog hunts, would the amber stand out well against the red light?
 
Yes, it will work great, as long as you have the light well enough forward of you to prevent it from causing your iris to constrict, causing loss of night vision.  I've found the amber triangle to be very visible in all lighting conditions and contrast well against all backgrounds.
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I have used both the triangle reticle and the center-dot w/dots. For your purposes the post w/triangle is much better. I like the amber, but different people see colors differently, especially men (apparently about 20% of men have some degree of color blindness, the reason we can never agree with our wives about the "right" color).
 
I've used the amber in all sorts of hunting in various kinds of hunting from bright sun to pretty nearly night and it has been fine. I don't have any trouble aiming with it, but then I have used post reticles a lot in the past. This seems like one of the best ever designed. In fact I am using it on a black bear hunt in Alaska next month, which seems like a perfect use for such a reticle.
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Good luck on your hunt, John!Big Smile  I would love to visit Alaska some day.
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

 Green or red is more visible than amber in the woods, from what I've heard...


I disagree on red.  In my experience, comparing side by side, amber is far more visible than red, which is why I chose it.  At the time I bought mine, green wasn't available yet. 
  I'll stand corrected then, as I was only passing along the opinions of others.
 I've never personally used an amber reticle to the best of my recollection.
It seems to me that it could get lost pretty easily in all the yellows in our Wisconsin autumns though...
 
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I have an amber in a 1.5x TA442 and the amber is quite bright and easy to pick up especially targeting running deer in heavy woods Thunbs Up
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RifledDude,
 
Thanks! Alaska is wonderful. I 've been lucky enough to hunt and fish there severasl times. It varies so much that a lifetime could be spent trying different things in different areas.
 
But the same thing could be said about Montana (where I live) or South Africa, or the rest of the world!
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I do a lot of night time hog hunting
I have two light setups, both from Texasboars

one is the red led (3) that is used for hunting from a stand and lighting up a feeder up to 75 yards away

the new setup is a combo of red/green scope mounted that yeilds an amber colored light

with the 1st setup I tested both the red and the amber reticles, either would work but I felt the amber was a better contrast, especially against a dark colored hog

with the new setup, I had the amber triangle and it worked, but I feel red or green would have been better contrast with the amber light from the red/green combo

I am lucky  in that while I live in the city, there's a big field behind my house that always has deer in it, great for testing scopes and hog hunting lights

Some people love the triangle reticle, so don't, I know that Bill Wilson (wilson combat) does a LOT of hunting, and a LOT of hog hunting (he's got a 10K acre setup in north east TX)

he prefers the dot setup over the triangle

the best thing to do would be to order both, don't mount them, test  and send back what you don't like...
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I have used both the green and amber dot. I think the green dot is easier to see and I like it the best. The duplex/green dot works great for me in both my 3-9x40 and 2.5-10x56 for low light/night hunting hogs. My only complaint (except for price) is the lack of tension on the widage/elevation turrets. Mine seem to hold zero on a .308 or .30-06 but not on my 9.3x62
 
If they will fix the positive click issue they will really have a great all around scope since overall build quality is good and the optics are very good.
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I have to agree, I prefer the amber.  I have the bigger brother and find the glass to be as good as any scope I have used with no tunnel vision.  I do not like the huge objective though.  But, you what you gets.  I have not hunted with the 3x9, just looked through them, but would like to get one.  Bought mine when they were not quite in vogue, ie, pre-Boddington article.  I have to agree with Bill, the turret clicks are not quite as positive as I would like, but the pull up feature is nice and it has held poi well on some real hard kickers.
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just to add some more info

I did some testing with the 1-4x24 (obj) last week, at dusk into the night watching deer with a buddy of mine
I could use the scope well past legal hunting time and could have confidently taken shots at 100 yards with my TB red/green LED scope light setup


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Originally posted by ccoker ccoker wrote:


Some people love the triangle reticle, so don't, I know that Bill Wilson (wilson combat) does a LOT of hunting, and a LOT of hog hunting (he's got a 10K acre setup in north east TX)

he prefers the dot setup over the triangle
 
 Do you think the dot setup is prefered over the triangle for the possibility of taking longer shots?
 
 The reason I ask is because I really don't have anywhere to take a shot over 100 yards. That's not to say I'll never take a shot over that distance, but as of right now I won't be.
 
 10k acres is a lot of land. I'd love to have that much to hunt onBucky.
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 Okay, as far as illumination color goes, it appears that most everyone prefers amber.
 
 I think I can safely eliminate red from my options because of the fact that I'll most likely be using a red light while hunting hogs at night.
 
 Now, ccoker, I'm glad you shared that info about the red/green lights together producing an amber light. If I wanted to leave my options open, (so I could use a light that color in the future) I would probably be better off to go with the green illumination. Of course, if I ever wanted to go with just a green light, wouldn't that render the green illumination useless?
 
 Ha ha... I'm probably making this way more complicated then it should be. A green light may not be a good choice for that particular use anyway, not to mention, I think red lights are the most commonly used and there's probably a good reason for that.
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