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Which one would you guys pick for a hunting scope? The specific IOR that I am talking about is the hunting model w/ Ill. HR-5 retical. The Trijicon is probably the amber Mil-dot.

The rifle that they would go on is a Winchester 1885 single shot falling block in 300 WSM. Used primarily for whitetail, but possible for elk, muleys, pronghorn or whatever when I go out West.

Low light performance is going to be a factor, but honestly, with the Fullfield II that is on there now can see to legal hunting hours unless it is overcast and I am looking into the woods, so I am pretty sure that either of the two will be adequate.

I guess I am looking for a reason to buy one over the other.  I have done quite a bit of research, an these are the two that I like, and basically represent what I want and my max price point.

I am guessing that the Trijicon will be a little better in low light, but even at max power, you are talking about a 4.2 vs 5.6 mm exit pupil, so I double that it will be pronounced, but I could be wrong.
Based on what I have read, I would guess the IOR will be slightly better optically, but this is also something I would like  confirmed if possible.

Another consideration may be the height of the mount, with the Trijicon needing to be mounted considerably higher.  This may also not be an issue though.  Right now, with low rings on it, it is a pain in the ass to cock the hammer away from the half-cock position when I am getting ready to fire, or to move it from cocked to half-cock.  I haven't decided for sure, but when I put new rings and bases on (Talley most likely), I may raise it up a little anyway.
That's about it I guess, I can't think of anything else anyway.
All opinions are appreciated, and feel free to throw out other options as well.  Keep in mind the price point as well as the fact that I would prefer an illuminated, ranging retical.
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When talking about the exit pupil above, the word double should be doubt.  I was copying and pasting and it must have been auto-corrected somehow.

Sorry for the stupid font too.

Is there a way to edit posts on this forum?  I don't see a button for it. 

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The IOR will have better glass.  Both are excellent scopes though.  
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So, while I am here, your sig reminds me…

Is there anything that could make a difference one way or the other with either Trijicon’s or IOR Valdada’s durability? Customer service?  Warranty?

And as far as Zombies, I am fine, I always keep some ninja’s near by…

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Trijicons are known to be crazy tough.  That IOR model is also known to be tough.  Personally I would prefer a 30mm tube on a magnum gun, but that is just a personal preference.  IORs CS is hit and miss.  My personal experience with a couple of 3-18x was great.  But others have not had such good results.  From everything I have read Trijicons is great.  I have never used it though. 

1 inch tube with 56mm objective is going to require some pretty tall rings.  Which mean your cheek weld will suck. 

I just mounted a 1.7-10 Swaro on a Browning 300 WSM with low talleys and my cheek weld is pretty nice.  The scope is nice and low.
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Both the scopes that I mentioned are 30mm tubes - according to SWFA and another site anyway...

Regardless - ya, I really like the Talley ring's / bases.  I have a Leupold 40mm  scope on a .257 Weatherby Mag Vanguard, and they look awesome and the scope sits nice and low.  

Like I said though, I might move to a little taller mount, due to the spacing between the eyepiece and the hammer on the 1885 anyway.The rings and bases on it now are Leupold, which came with the rifle when I bought it. (low rings I think - the Burris on it is a 3-9 x 40 and sits pretty low).  Talley started making bases now for the 1885, so I will probably try those with some of their 30mm rings.
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Yep, you are right on the 30mm.  My bad. 

I used to have the 2.5-10x IOR tactical version.  It was a great scope.  The glass was super nice, I just did not like the adjustments knobs on it.  I have really liked the Trijicon scopes I have had as well.

I think either way you go, you will end up with a darn nice scope. 


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I would seriously consider using the 3-9 Accupoint
I think it's one of the best overall hunting scopes around
great glass, lightweight, etc
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Actually I did do a little stalking with the 1885 this last year (first year I had the rifle), so I would like to have the low end power. I just won't shoot at anything that I am not almost positive I am going to hit. Really if you have the bullets ready, the reloading with the falling block isn't that bad, you can set it to eject the shell in either direction, and you can reload without taking the gun away from your shoulder. It's not like I am hunting any dangerous game with it. I do hunt in several places where there is lots of cover too, so some shots could be shorter through brush. From my stand, the 5-20 would work fine, but if I want to carry it around at all (which I do), I want the low end power. Also, assuming the optics are clear, which I expect them to be at this price point, 10x should be enough for any shot that I am comfortable taking at a big game animal. I am not taking the 300 varmint hunting any time soon anyway.
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Can anybody that has used the IOR 2.5-10x42 hunting model tell me how the knobs work? Looking at the picture it almost looks like they are basically just low profile tactical type knobs that you can turn to adjust the scope rather than the traditional cap that you take off and adjust the dial underneath. Just curious.
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I recently bought the Trijicon 2.5-10 X 56 with Amber Plex.  I am happy with it.  I have a Leica 2.5-10, a Conquest 3-9, SS 10HD, and (3) 6x42 Monarchs.  Judging as best I could taking the Zen Ray 8x43 ED's and trying to mix the rifles up shuffling two at a time to compare out of the blinds in different conditions.

I can say there are differences as can be expected.  When it comes down to it at the end, I like the way the Accupoint draws your eye to the center and seems to jump to the animals vitals in acquisition time.  It may seem a small thing but it does seem better that way.  A perfect scope for me would be a SS 3-9 HD or Conquest with a Accupoint center dot and 1st Plane Mildot Reticle for $700.00.

I have been using the Mildot Master and would prefer more of my scopes to have that capability but not happening.  Got to cool it on the toys for a while.

Merry Christmas!

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To my limited knowledge, the IOR hunter has capped turrets.

I had the Trijicon 2.5-10, it is a good scope, good glass, it is large and relatively heavy (significantly larger than the 3-9.)  I also have the 3-9 and the IOR 2.5-10 tactical (new turrets.)

For a brush gun or a stalking gun, the 3-9 would be my choice (capped turrets so no accidental spinning, not a huge bell to catch on things, plenty of power for most real-world shots.)

For a stand gun, the IOR would get my vote since stand hunting usually gets longer shots and are more stable (so heavier gun and optic aren't a bad thing.)  The new illumination on the IOR is great, the glass is better than the Trijicon, and the MP-8 FFP is great for doping shots on the reticle.

I had the Trijicon 5-20 as well, liked it, the cross hairs are a little thicker than I like.

I'd get the 3-9 Trijicon for all-around hunting.
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