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Originally posted by 338LAPUASLAP 338LAPUASLAP wrote:

Toric = LOW
That would have been my guess...
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Schott glass, made in Japan, decent prices...all positives. 1" tubes (not a huge deal, but I have no rings for such), 2nd focal plane, no dialing (except for those lower end BDC* jobs)...negatives. Low end is more important than high, e.g. 3-15 beats 4-16. That's just me, but I won't be interested. The higher-end 8 and 10X bins look interesting though.

*I see they have a calculator, which is nice. Still my opinion of BDC scopes is that each one is different while once you learn drops for a mil-dot FFP you can switch scopes without compensation.
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Some people NEVER switch scopes.  

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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Some people NEVER switch scopes.  


What does that mean ?

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Originally posted by NDhunter NDhunter wrote:

Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Some people NEVER switch scopes.  


What does that mean ?


That they(some people) buy a scope, have it mounted, and that is the only scope they ever have, it never moves from that rifle… what did you think it meant???
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I've switched wives but never scopes!

😜 Never said that was right just happened. Wives that is.
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FYI, I meant switching rifles, each with a different scope.
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I switch scopes and rifles all the time.  Not wives, though.

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I switch scopes and rifles all the time.  Not wives, though.

ILya

I used to switch scopes from rifle to rifle all the time… now I am more inclined to get a scope specifically geared to the rifle.  Not sure it wasn't easier to switch scopes… at least I knew the few scopes I had intimately and had workups for each rifle I would change to, just a matter of dialing the adjustments, check zero and go.  Not quite so easy with so many different scopes… some mil/MOA, some mil/mil, some MOA/MOA.  A learning experience every time I decide to shoot a different rifle.  Of course, thera are some that are "stand-by's" that don't get changed and get used often.  

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Tract optics will not have a booth at Shot because they are a direct marketer and do not sell through regular distribution channels. Jon LaCorte said he and John Allen will attend to meet with the media.
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Well, I suppose that means one less stop for me...

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Well, I suppose that means one less stop for me...

ILya
C'mon man, investigate… get the info.  They'll be there, track them down.
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I do not have time to track anyone down. I only have two days at the show. I'll talk to them if I run into then.
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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I switch scopes and rifles all the time.  Not wives, though.

ILya


Switching scopes & rifles isn't cheap but it's less expensive than switching wives!Wink
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My wives were all good housekeepers they all kept the houses!
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My hunting partner bought the Toric 10x42 binocular which promptly had the eyepieces (both) fall to pieces on the first hunt. He said they offered a replacement, but he just got a refund. He is now going for Meostar HDs.
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Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

My hunting partner bought the Toric 10x42 binocular which promptly had the eyepieces (both) fall to pieces on the first hunt. He said they offered a replacement, but he just got a refund. He is now going for Meostar HDs.


This story sounds suspect, more details needed.  The binocular reports so far

have been all positive, so ?

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jonlacorte: Hello and welcome to TRACT....Here to help if you have any questions.

Response scopes are they 1 inch or 30 mm tubes? total MOA or MIL adjustment range windage and elevation?

jonlacorte: Hi, the RESPONSE scopes feature a 1" tube. The 2.5-10x42 model has 60 MOA of internal adjustment the 4-16x42 has 44 MOA

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Originally posted by NDhunter NDhunter wrote:

Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

My hunting partner bought the Toric 10x42 binocular which promptly had the eyepieces (both) fall to pieces on the first hunt. He said they offered a replacement, but he just got a refund. He is now going for Meostar HDs.


This story sounds suspect, more details needed.  The binocular reports so far

have been all positive, so ?



What sounds suspect?

Just one consumer's experience. I just relayed it here, as it seems on topic. Could be an isolated incident, but it happened.
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Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

Originally posted by NDhunter NDhunter wrote:

Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

My hunting partner bought the Toric 10x42 binocular which promptly had the eyepieces (both) fall to pieces on the first hunt. He said they offered a replacement, but he just got a refund. He is now going for Meostar HDs.


This story sounds suspect, more details needed.  The binocular reports so far

have been all positive, so ?



What sounds suspect?

Just one consumer's experience. I just relayed it here, as it seems on topic. Could be an isolated incident, but it happened.


A second hand report of both eyepieces falling out of the binocular, that is BS.

Not sure why you would post that.  You have lost some credibility, if you want to know.

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Originally posted by NDhunter NDhunter wrote:

A second hand report of both eyepieces falling out of the binocular, that is BS.

Not sure why you would post that.  You have lost some credibility, if you want to know.


A few things:  

First off, I made a mistake in my second-hand report.  I meant to write eyeCUPS, not eyepieces.  My mistake.

Secondly, I have no interest in making TRACT out to be bad.  In fact, I recommended to my friend to give them a try, based on the positive reviews.

Thirdly, It seems some members here know the folks at TRACT, and they could probably verify the incident if it would make you feel better.

This was one of my closest friends and hunting partners.  I value his opinions and experiences.  It definitely isn't BS.  Maybe his account provides a fuller picture for somebody else.

As far as my credibility with you goes, you can decide that for yourself.  My credibility with him remains unchanged, and that is what matters to me.
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Matt:

It is good to see you cleared things up. 

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Eye piece -- eye cup... same thing happened with my Swaro CL bino, just twisted out of the housing. Repaired, no further issues.

Odd it may be, I still count it as one of the finest glassing instruments I"ve ever owned. 

Bet Tract would do the same.

Wf

 


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I I may live to regret it but i ordered the 3x15x50 toric with bdc through Amazon so i can return it if i dont like it.All i have to compare it to is my vortex diamond back hp 4x16x42
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