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    Posted: March/07/2022 at 13:31
"but you gotta have ammunition for it....."    This is where you have to make the hard choice on caliber selection in todays market.  If you can't feed it then it doesn't matter how much you like the caliber.    Some calibers like 300 WSM brass does not have a very long lifespan.  Not much revolver ammo seems to be getting produced currently either. 

Any caliber you can build with .308 or .223 brass should be good to go.

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The old Swedish Mauser is good enough for moose and polar bear.....but you gotta have ammunition for it.....

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6.5x55 lovely calibre. Easy on the shoulder and within its range limits very capable. We have a old Finn hunter in our camp and that’s all he used for moose. Great sectional density.
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6.5x55? 6.5x57? Surely those European gals get a look in....?
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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

6.5 Creed is a popular choice... however an often overlooked 6.5 is the original 260 remington.  does all that a creedmoor does, only better, but without the prom queen\popluar girl reputation.  lol




Indeed! I have both the 6.5CR and the .260 and the prom queen analogy is perfect.


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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

6.5 Creed is a popular choice... however an often overlooked 6.5 is the original 260 remington.  does all that a creedmoor does, only better, but without the prom queen\popluar girl reputation.  lol




Indeed! I have both the 6.5CR and the .260 and the prom queen analogy is perfect.
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6.5 Creed is a popular choice... however an often overlooked 6.5 is the original 260 remington.  does all that a creedmoor does, only better, but without the prom queen\popluar girl reputation.  lol


Can load 260 in 308 brass with a neck resize, and can get in small and large primer pockets as well.   IMO the best .264 round made due to its ease of loading.  


Don't get me wrong I have a Kimber in 6.5 Creedmoor.... its the lightweight hunter. little over 6#s scoped and loaded.  I had a pile of .264 bullets and they didn't offer in another option so i went with it. 
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Iowa doesn't use high power rifles with a few exceptions and the law keeps changing. Last deer I shot in Texas was with a 30-06 a long time ago. Here I use a 50 cal musket and recently can use 44 mag or 45-70 last year they changed rules again must be larger than .35 caliber, but they removed wording about requiring straight wall cartridges, clearly they did not realize what that includes, the game wardens were clueless when my friend said oh good I'll use my 50BMG and I'm like ... so .375 H&H is OK but not .300 WM. I'm sure any of these will kill deer there are plenty being shot with 300 Blackout and the up side to that caliber is making brass from .223 is not hard, it has very little recoil.

Barnes 300 Blackout  110 gr 2350 fps   1349 Ft Lbs Energy.


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Nice write up Wes… 👍👍

We've been pretty fortunate using the 6.5 Creed, no issues so far, yeah bullet placement sure helps . 😉 With that said my fav the past 10 years has been the 7mm.08 (.284 120gr. TTSX reloads). 🦌. 💥

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  I would probably pick .308 for her because .308 brass is still out there to be had. 

(I will use Barnes data to compare apples to apples.)

6.5 Creedmoor  120 gr Barnes Tripple Shock at 2910  Feet Per Second 2257 Ft Lbs Energy 
 
7mm-08 Remington 120 gr Barnes Tripple Shock at 3005 Feet Per Second 2537 Ft Lbs Energy  

.308 130 gr Barnes Vor Tx 3125 Feet Per Second 2818 Foot Pounds Energy 

.243   80gr  3350 fps  1994 Foot Pounds Energy.  Velocity gives it consistent expansion with a solid copper bullet that does not fragment.  So the old .243 is still a fine choice.  
 
The guy I was talking to was the one shooting the 7mm Rem Mag that was used to stuff falling down when he shot it, who was not happy about having to track his buddy's antelope for miles. He did mention it was hit a little far back. It was definitely not an endorsement for the 6.5C and I am a bit bias against 6.5C.
 I'm just not fond of every rifle in the store being 6.5C with few other choices, and no ammo or brass for it makes it rather pointless to me.  

 


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Well maybe I'll get Meghan a 6.5 Creed.....   Bucky

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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

Tikka is my favorite, but I have other brands also, I've spent a lot of time with TC Encore single shots and like the Bullberry Custom barrels for those, but it's a long wait to get one.  I think the choice has to be purpose driven because nobody wants to climb mountains with a heavy rifle and if you hunt from a blind with a good rest, it wouldn't matter much what it weighed.  The fit and finish of Kimbers I have seen is very nice, but I have no desire to own one unless it was .375 H&H which in all brands have vanished from the face of the Earth. Most gunsmiths can work on a Remmington, but they usually need some work to make them shoot. With no brass or primers to be had, one really has to think about what caliber to select because ammo is not showing up in every caliber on a regular basis.  Also, I'm not impressed with reports I have heard on the 6.5 Creedmoor when it comes to hunting live animals. 
There seem to be more 6.5C rifles on the shelf at the store than any other caliber but not much ammo to feed them. I'd rather have a .308 that I can feed. 

Wes, I don’t know who is feeding you the Bull💩💩💩 on the Creedmoor not doing the job is ridiculous! If the .243 has worked for all of these why wouldn’t the Creedmoor be that much better? My wife and I have killed 10 Whitetails over the last 7 years with the lowly Creedmoor with absolutely no problems. Whoever made that claim ain’t too smart.
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10+ years ago Rachel started off a youth model Browning Micro-Midas X-bolt in .243,  it came with paper work enabling her to upgrade to a full size stock later if she wanted. Nice looking rifle, light weight, wood stock, smooth action, feels good shouldering, tack driver. They still make ‘em. We never upgraded the stock but she has moved up to using either our 7mm.08 (Winkle) or 6.5 Creed. Rachel’s 5’2”, around 100#’s.


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Meghan is 5' 4" and weighs maybe 100 pounds soaking wet.  
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I was thinking of getting Meghan a rifle and I thought the 6.5 Creedmoor was the new Cat's Pajamas...maybe not. 

I would have to get her a Youth model with like a 12 1/2 inch LOP. I would like to get her something bigger than a 243. 

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Tikka is my favorite, but I have other brands also, I've spent a lot of time with TC Encore single shots and like the Bullberry Custom barrels for those, but it's a long wait to get one.  I think the choice has to be purpose driven because nobody wants to climb mountains with a heavy rifle and if you hunt from a blind with a good rest, it wouldn't matter much what it weighed.  The fit and finish of Kimbers I have seen is very nice, but I have no desire to own one unless it was .375 H&H which in all brands have vanished from the face of the Earth. Most gunsmiths can work on a Remmington, but they usually need some work to make them shoot. With no brass or primers to be had, one really has to think about what caliber to select because ammo is not showing up in every caliber on a regular basis.  Also, I'm not impressed with reports I have heard on the 6.5 Creedmoor when it comes to hunting live animals. 
There seem to be more 6.5C rifles on the shelf at the store than any other caliber but not much ammo to feed them. I'd rather have a .308 that I can feed. 

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I have a M695 in 280Rem.  It is superbly accurate, so I put it into a nice McMillan and view it as a more of long-ish distance hunting rile when I do not have to hike that much.  It is easily 10lbs with a scope, sling and magazine.
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I have a Tikka M 695. It's actually heavy.....maybe seven pounds....with a scope it's like eight pounds....kind of like the Olde Days........

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