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    Posted: January/08/2022 at 21:41
No but I just sent a Bushnell 1-4 back to Bushnell,  I  had two of them one works the other not so much you get a choice at 100 yds either the reticle is fuzzy and the target in focus or the target is fuzzy and the reticle sharp .... never both but I know is their fault cause the other same model scope works fine. Whistling

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Does anyone here know anything about this one?

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Going to build another 6.8 once the barrel I prefer becomes available. Thinking of a 3-9 or 4-12 VXR. I like those because of the single dot. And that magnification range for hunting use out to 300 yards which is the mpbr of my hand loaded ammo. A fixed 10x or 12x would be ideal but illumination is necessary because most of our hunting is at night with rail mounted flashlights but we shoot during day a lot as well.
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I've had the Burris Rt-6 for about a year now. It came with the Burris P.E.P.R mount for under $400 after taxes and everything. This scope has done everything I've asked of it and more. Even left on low and put back in safe it was still illuminating when retrieved. It works at all temps even when coming out of warm house to cold outdoor temps. This is my bump in the night/home hog rifle and it works every time. Thanks for the help. The only thing I would prefer is a single illuminated dot like my 3-9x50 crossfire II had but that one was not reliable enough to count on. Thanks for the help
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"In lower price ranges, stick with tried and proven 1-4x24 scopes like SWFA's:

Thanks for the link Ilya, was considering the SWFA SS 1-4 but found an SWFA 1-6 HD at the link and stretched the wallet a bit.    Being as new to this as the OP - deciding was driving me crazy.
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Let me know what you think about that 536 when you get it up and running. Thanks for all your help Ilya. What is there to know about that Delta Hornet? I would have already bought the rt-6 but life happened. I'm about to make the purchase again though.
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I just got the AR-536 that Ilya linked to to go on my DDM4 Pistol.  Should arrive early next week from the good folks that run this site from down US287 a ways.  Debating whether to mount the fastfire on the 536 or putting it on as a direct mount to my new MkIV Ruger.  I have one on my MkII and love it.  Can't beat that deal.  I can't speak to it's usefulness, but I've had good luck with Burris in the past.
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Originally posted by ATEXAN ATEXAN wrote:

Would the ar 536 be more durable than the rt-6 since it is a prismatic scope with less parts? I really like fixed power scopes as well because I can get more glass for my money and I usually set my scopes on the power I like and leave them anyway.

Also, I couldn't find the delta hornet 1-6. Just the titanium and it's about double my budget.

Both are well built scopes, so I do not think you will see any practical durability difference.

Delta Hornet is very new.  They are probably not widely available yet.  

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Would the ar 536 be more durable than the rt-6 since it is a prismatic scope with less parts? I really like fixed power scopes as well because I can get more glass for my money and I usually set my scopes on the power I like and leave them anyway.

Also, I couldn't find the delta hornet 1-6. Just the titanium and it's about double my budget.
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Originally posted by ATEXAN ATEXAN wrote:

Thanks guys going to look into the delta hornet as well. I would love a bigger objective but don't want a scope longer than my 10.5" upper. I like 50mm objectives normally but this one needs a short scope.

If you do not need 1x, there are other options that might work better for you, like some sort of 4x prismatic scope.  Those usually have larger objectives and they are short.

Finding a good one for $400 is a little tricky, but if you can find a deal on Crimson Trace 3.5x Battlesight, it is worth a look. 

This one is on sale and worth a look:

There are others of 3x, 4x and 5x variety.

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Thanks guys going to look into the delta hornet as well. I would love a bigger objective but don't want a scope longer than my 10.5" upper. I like 50mm objectives normally but this one needs a short scope.
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For night work I might advocate a bigger objective
Was sure I had a point when I started this post...
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Originally posted by ATEXAN ATEXAN wrote:

Y'all went to S&B in a budget optics post. Lol. Only can afford S&B ammo here

That didn't take long, did it?

If you can stuck to your $400 budget, RT-6 and Delta Hornet will work well for you.

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Y'all went to S&B in a budget optics post. Lol. Only can afford S&B ammo here
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Thanks for the welcome. I've been lurking/using ot in my research for years but figured being a member would end up costing me too much. 
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I tend to agree on staying away from the less than $200 as I had to send a 3-9x50 Crossfire II that I had on my 6.8 back twice. Once for debris showing up in the reticle and the other time for it shifting on me. It will be shot a lot as I have a range out my back porch and two stands on my little spread. So it definitely won't be a safe queen. Magnification is a must though. Snow's bbq is awesome as well. Once the kids are out of school I definitely plan on stepping to the $1k range but that will be a while. Right now really just need durability that I can depend on.
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Yea, my assessment as well.

Was hoping someone would compete with them on it, but I guess not. Maybe the Nightforce.

Maybe.

I will also be testing S&B 1-8x24 Short Dot at the same time.  I do not think you will like the price very much, but it is an exceedingly nice scopes.  I like the MDR-T6 reticle though.

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Yea, my assessment as well.

Was hoping someone would compete with them on it, but I guess not. Maybe the Nightforce.

Maybe.
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It sounds like you want the new Razor Gen 3 1-10x24.

I'll let you know how I like it when it gets here.

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To the original poster, sorry to derail, or partially derail; but:

I want a 1-8 or 1-10 with true 1X, no tunneling, very well defined "red dot-type" aiming point at 1X, and mil-based reticle, and no fisheye effect at magnification. Capped turrets are best, size and weight in line with other comparable offerings is good enough. A large ocular - similar to Razor 1-6 - is ideal, throw lever is a plus, unless someone figures out the ergonomics of a good power ring that moves when needed and doesn't when not. The spare battery compartments on the SWFAs is a great idea, that too would be a nice addition, but not a demand. It needs to function flawlessly on an AR platform, most preferably an AR10.

At present, the best fit is a 2-10 or 3-9 with offset red dot. Ideally, all that would be one optical platform. It need not have awesome low light capabilities, so the 24mm objective is fine. The primary demands are at the very top and very bottom of the mag range, so it needs to do exceedingly well at the ends, the middle is just marginally useful.

The closest thing I have found to perfect out now is the Vortex Razor 1-6. That said, I haven't torture-tested anything else. I've run several 1-4s and always wanted a good 1-8 or 1-10, but the pick'ins are slim. The true 1X seems to be the real problem.
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