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   FWIW, I have a 6mm Remington which is similar to the 243 Winchester with a 1x9 twist barrel and it shoots the Hornady 105 AMAX really well and it has a pretty good BC too.  As best I can tell, the 107 SMK and Bergers require a 1x8 twist.  

The 6mm Remington has the horsepower to do well at 1000 yards and I imagine a 243 does too, you just might have to settle with Hornady bullets.

As far as a scope, it depends on what you're primarly going to use it for.  For small critters at long distance, I'd want magnification with good clarity and resolution at the highest magnifications along with good eye relief thru the zoom range.

For coyotes, foxes, etc... I would settle for less power but still good clarity and resolution.  

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tjtjwdad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Optics Apprentice Joined: December/11/2007 Online Status: Online Posts: 219	Post Options Post Reply Quote tjtjwdad Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Opinions Wanted... Posted: January/19/2010 at 00:50
	FWIW, I have a 6mm Remington which is similar to the 243 Winchester with a 1x9 twist barrel and it shoots the Hornady 105 AMAX really well and it has a pretty good BC too. As best I can tell, the 107 SMK and Bergers require a 1x8 twist. The 6mm Remington has the horsepower to do well at 1000 yards and I imagine a 243 does too, you just might have to settle with Hornady bullets. As far as a scope, it depends on what you're primarly going to use it for. For small critters at long distance, I'd want magnification with good clarity and resolution at the highest magnifications along with good eye relief thru the zoom range. For coyotes, foxes, etc... I would settle for less power but still good clarity and resolution.

sofalyr Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Optics GrassHopper Joined: January/12/2010 Location: tx Online Status: Offline Posts: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote sofalyr Report Post Quote Reply Posted: January/18/2010 at 20:51
	Guess nobody answered your question. I am going to try a Millett Gold. Will be putting it on a .243 also. NSS seemed to think the Milletts were great... just heavy. Guess we will see. I have a old Titan 3x9x42 which I think was the previous name of the SS. It does have beautiful glass, I don't use it because I am not thrilled with the FFP reticule. Good luck and let us know how it all works out.

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	After a few days of scope research... Wow. There are endless varieties and features. Exhausting.

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	what brand 4x do you have?
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	I hunt yotes with a 4x and have got one at almost 400 yards.
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Preston Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Optics Apprentice Joined: September/13/2009 Location: IOWA Online Status: Offline Posts: 159	Post Options Post Reply Quote Preston Report Post Quote Reply Posted: November/04/2009 at 17:19
	When I go hunting coyotes we rarely find them out to 1000 yards... typically they are about 200-300 yards sometimes at most 500-600 yards and we hunt alot of them on our farms in Iowa. I typically use my bolt action .22 mag with a 3-9x40 cuz I don't expect them to be out too far and I dont want to ruin the hides while my brother uses a .223 and our friends use their .243's or .223's but most of us are using a 3-9x40 while one guy uses a Nikon 4.5-14x40 on his savage .243 and he likes it really well when we coyote hunt. I'd say get a Nikon 3-9x40 or 4.5-14x40 would be a great coyote hunting scope but thats just my opinion.
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supertool73 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Optics Master Extraordinaire Superstool Joined: January/03/2008 Location: Utah Online Status: Offline Posts: 4591	Post Options Post Reply Quote supertool73 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: November/04/2009 at 16:54
	Optimally your going to want a 1-8" to stabilize those bullets. But it is always possible they may shoot good in the 9.25. That one should shoot up to 100s good. They say that the 105s and 107s are another animal though. They don't shoot worth crap in either of the .243s my dad and I have. 100 are pretty good, but that is pushing it. Realistically though, for the varmint hunting you are wanting to do, that is a fantastic choice and the 75 to 90 grain bullets will easily shoot way way out there.
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	I'm going to go with one of the Savages, as I am very comfortable with their quality (and I am a dealer). I think they're using 1:9.25 rifling, but I would probably buy a different barrel if I were serious about 1000 yds anyhow. I'm not sure what twist is needed to stabilize the heavier 107 or so bullets (like a Match King). Do you?

supertool73 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Optics Master Extraordinaire Superstool Joined: January/03/2008 Location: Utah Online Status: Offline Posts: 4591	Post Options Post Reply Quote supertool73 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: November/04/2009 at 16:31
	What rifle are you getting? Based on the barrel and twist rate, that will play a big role in reaching 1000 yards with the .243. Certainly doable, but you will want to shoot the heavier 105 and 107 grain bullets. Most factory .243s do not have a fast enough twist rate to stabilize those heavy bullets. They are more set up for the 70 to 90 grain ranges. It is really hard to get a barrel that will shoot the whole range of bullets offered well. You almost have to choose one end of the spectrum or the other. Yes the SS does have resettable to zero turrets. They are good scopes.
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DrewsShootingSports Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Optics GrassHopper Joined: November/04/2009 Location: OP Kansas Online Status: Offline Posts: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrewsShootingSports Report Post Quote Reply Posted: November/04/2009 at 16:25
	Imaginary: Thanks for the advice! I have decided on .243 due to the flexibility of the cartridge (I can make some loads with lighter bullets and preserve coyote hides, or load some heavier projectiles to get it downrange). I don't even currently have a place to shoot 1000yds, but I was curious. It is my estimation that the longest shots I may get will realistically be 800 yds or less. I understand that a lot comes into effect at long range, and of course I will enjoy an "excuse" to get some hours of good work in! I obviously am looking for the best of all worlds (you know, that does exist, right? No? Ohhh...)! I think I'm pretty set on the .243 (a lot of world class 6mm 1000 yd shooters out there!). Does the SS scope have some sort of "return to zero" function for elevation/windage adjustments? Thanks again!