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    Posted: October/26/2009 at 17:08
I told yellowdog in a reply PM that I did that I followed that procedure at first, but was not happy with it.  Then I took it to the smith and it made it better than I was able to do it. 

I guess a better explanation of my issue is;  The creep is so small in reality that I bet most people would not notice it for hunting and plinking type of shooting.  I would almost classify it as travel before it breaks more than creep.  As it does not seem like loose crap it is moving through, but actually movement as the sear is releasing the cocking mechanism.  Like I said it is very minimal, but I do notice it with the kind of shooting I do with that rifle and just want it better.

  
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    I set my 700VS at 2 1/2 lbs. I wouldn't want any lighter, but that weight does pass slam fire using that method. My others are at 3lbs.
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  I forgot to add that I did install and use a trigger shoe until Timney FINALLY came out with a trigger for the Vanguard/Howa.  It definitely made a diff but I still replaced the oem trigger.
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Originally posted by RifleDude

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I've had a custom rifle with a Jewell trigger and it was fantastic, but my former Marine gunsmith did not like them, would not install them, and used only Timney. 
 
That probably has a lot to do with the intended application of the rifle and the philosophy of your former Marine smith.  A typical 3 lever trigger like the Jewell, being more mechanically complex, is less tolerant of grit and residue.  It is a very precisely fitted mechanism, and if dirt, grease, or gelled oil residue gets inside the trigger housing, it can gum it up and make it not work.  This is much more likely to happen on a hunting rifle than a target or "fair weather" varmint rifle.  I'm referring to a M700 style drop-in trigger, not a Jewell AR trigger.  I've even seen this happen with a stock Remington 700 trigger, in fact.  In the instructions provided with their triggers, Jewell advises against using any oil whatsoever in their trigger and recommends that it be flushed out periodically with lighter fluid.  The main virtue of the old style Winchester M70 trigger for hunting use is the fact it was incredibly simple and wasn't enclosed in a housing, so it was totally reliable and virtually immune to getting gummed up.  I would imagine a former Marine would likely place more value on ultimate foolproof reliability than the best possible trigger pull.  It's a tradeoff -- simpler triggers with fewer moving parts are less affected by dirt and residue, but cannot provide as good a trigger pull as more complex designs with compound leverage and a separate actuator lever.
Ted, you are right and I agree totally with that philosophy, just didn't want to start another trigger war.  I really don't have any use for a pure target/varmint trigger/rifle.  I suspect my Etronx would serve that purpose quite handily if I were to pursue it, but it's so accurate the BRers won't let it compete.  Having had a Jewell and the Timneys, I don't notice enough difference to justify the cost difference anyway.  Loved the Jewell trigger, just didn't need it, never hunted with that rifle which is why I sold it... too pretty to hunt with.  The Timneys I have provide all the trigger response I need for the type of shooting I do.  If I ever get into benchrest, which I really don't think I will... not that much interest for me... I will probably use Jewell or some other similar.  The Voere double set trigger is pretty amazing.  Heck, I even LIKE most of the stock triggers, but sometimes one just HAS to move up...
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[QUOTE=yellowdog]    I set my 700VS at 2 1/2 lbs. I wouldn't want any lighter, but that weight does pass slam fire using that method. QUOTE]
 
Me too. I love my old Remmy trigger. Most people "lucky enough" to fondle Black Betty, think she's had a boob job, but no...she's all natural!!  Wink


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both of mine 673& 700 are both set at around 4lbs im not as picky as the rest of you guys. course these are my hunting rifles too.
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THis one sounds pretty darn good.  But it is almost $400.  Say What

http://www.huberconcepts.com/Remington700.htm


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Post Options Post Options   Quote RifleDude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/26/2009 at 18:04
Originally posted by Kickboxer

Having had a Jewell and the Timneys, I don't notice enough difference to justify the cost difference anyway.  Loved the Jewell trigger, just didn't need it, never hunted with that rifle which is why I sold it... too pretty to hunt with.  The Timneys I have provide all the trigger response I need for the type of shooting I do.  If I ever get into benchrest, which I really don't think I will... not that much interest for me... I will probably use Jewell or some other similar.  The Voere double set trigger is pretty amazing.  Heck, I even LIKE most of the stock triggers, but sometimes one just HAS to move up...
 
The only time you really benefit from a Jewell 700-style trigger is on a competition rifle where an extremely light trigger -- less than 5 oz. -- is a virtue.  I have a benchrest rifle with a 2 oz trigger, for example.  So, I'm not surprised that you didn't notice much difference.  With a 2 - 4 lb trigger pull typical of a hunting rifle, having a Jewell trigger is not a wise use of money IMO, because you can get almost as good a trigger pull at those "hunting" weights with a Basix.  A properly adjusted Remington or Timney trigger isn't far behind.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Kickboxer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/26/2009 at 18:06
And that's when the fight started...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RifleDude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/26/2009 at 18:11
No fighting, bro; I'm agreeing with you.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RifleDude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/26/2009 at 18:13
Originally posted by supertool73

THis one sounds pretty darn good.  But it is almost $400.  Say What

http://www.huberconcepts.com/Remington700.htm
 
I've heard Huber triggers are nice, but at their asking price, I'm not likely to get any trigger time behind one.
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Originally posted by RifleDude

No fighting, bro; I'm agreeing with you.
 
Joking...
 
However, the trigger on my Laredo is set at 1.5lb, on the custom rifle came from the builder at 3/4 lb.  It was really nice, but certainly no nicer than the one on the Voere which is at 8oz.  Doesn't seem like a 2oz trigger would have any "feel" to it.  I've never shot with a trigger set at 2oz... Maybe one of these days I'll make it to your area and we can try it out...
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