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    Posted: December/31/2004 at 18:01

Ok - I know some of you will say spend more on good quality optics.  But this is my budget, so I have to stick with it.

 

I'm looking seriously at the Bushnell Trophy 10x42's, but I'm wondering if someone would recommend other binocs in this price range.

 

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If I could make a suggestion check out the Carson XM Series binoculars.  When I compared them to more expensive glass they were just as good or even better.  Some of the ones I compared to side by side were Nikon Monarchs, Steiner, Pentax Dcf HrII, Brunton, and Bushnell Trophey.   None were as bright and clear as the Carson XM's.  A friend has a pair of Zeiss and to be totally honest I couldn't see any difference.  If there was definitly not a diference worth the  extra money.

 

You can see the Carson Xm binoculars at www.cabelas.com

 

It is a pretty unknown brand but if you want to read up on them here is a link to the archery forum that I belong to, which is where I heard about them.  www.archerytalk.com    Do a basic search once you get to the web page for Carson.  Im sure you will be impressed with what all the fellow bowman have to say.



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Consider Nikon Action Extreme 10x50 and Pentax PCF WP 10x50.  If you choose to go with a roof prism, I would strongly suggest that you do not purchase anything without P-coating (phase corectied).  Porro binoculars like the ones above are a little bigger but offer a lot more optical performance for the money.

 

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I prefer the 10x42, but it appears only Cabelas carries the Carson XM series in the 10x42.  Anyone know why that is?  What about the Carson YK series, anyone have thoughts about them?

 

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The YK also known as the Yukon series from what I have been told are good but there is a noticable difference between those and the XM.  I went through Cabelas when I bought the XM's.  Most places I found on the internet that carried the Carson Xm's wanted $299.00 so I figured that at Cabelas price of $199 that was a pretty good buy.  Plus the YK through them is only about 50 dollars cheaper. 

 

I checked Cabelas web site and they have the 10x42 for $219.  Im not an optics expert but I read that by going to a 10x over an 8x you only gain minimal magnification but with the same size lens objective of 42 the lower power will be brighter. 

 

Just courious did you check the archery link above and do a seach for Carson?  I'm curious if it will let you search without being a member????  If it didn't let me know because I can try to get the information to you by linking the pages.

 

I would never tell someone that you should buy Brand X.  I think optics are a personal thing.  What may look good for me wont for you.  BUT, I am VERY happy with the Carson XM's everyone of my friends and family members I've showed them to have also been very impressed so much so some will be buying them for next hunting season. For the moeny I think they are the best kept secret out there.

 

 

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I was able to view the posts as a guest on the Archery Forum.  Did you get to look at/through the Carson binocs before you bought them from Cabelas?  Also, does anyone know if Sportsman's Warehouse or other retailers sell them?

 

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Actually, I bought the Carsons sight unseen.  It was a big risk but I was impressed with what I was reading on the archery forums so I took the risk and couldn't be more happy.  I think for the money they are hard to beat.  I don't know if Cabelas has a return policy but it couldn't hurt to ask.  That way if you order the Carson or other brand and it is not up to your expectations you could return them for a different pair.

 

I don't know if the Sportsman Warehouse carries the binoculars or not.  I did I "Google" search before I bought mine and most places listed the XM's at $299.  I thought that Cabelas had a great price on them for $199.  I found the following links:

 

 

http://www.fogdog.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1820813&am p;cp&searchId=15610&brandId=15610&parentPage=sea rch

 

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/sm-carson-optical-brand-sh op--fi-1182448.html

 

http://www.sportsauthority.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=7 02345&cp=1346878

 

 

 

 

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You CANNOT buy a quality pair of roof prism, phase corrected, 10X42 binocular for the price you are indicating.  Certainly you can buy the carson model (and possibly some others) but they simply will not exhibit acceptable build quality. (By acceptable I mean able to take the rigors of constant outdoor field use without losing collimation, becoming fogged, or producing horrific eye-strain related headaches.)  You CANNOT look at a binocular in a store and compare it effectively against another brand. You have no way of judging durability, or the presence of eye strain which will only show up after significant usage (an hour or so of looking through them.)  There are reasons why these models are so cheap.  Just because it says "phase corrected" on the box does not mean it has been built with high quality standards.  The cheapest roof prism, phase corrected, 10X42 binocular on todays market that exhibits acceptable quality in its construction is the Bushnell Legend model.

 

All is not lost, however.  You CAN buy a rugged, quality build binocular for your price range.  You just have to buy a porro prism model. These will be a little bulkier than a roof prism, but they can give all the optical performance of the highest priced roof prisms.  Options to look at include the Bushnell Legends, Pentax PCF, Nikon Action Extreme, and a few others. 

 

I strongly advise against the Carsons or any other low end priced roof prism model - even if they are phase corrected. You will only be buying yourself a bunch of headaches, literally!

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I am only going to chime in to defend a product.  I wont tell someone to to buy this brand over the next it is going to be his decision.  However, unless you personally have handled the Carsons I think that is an unfair statement.  Many fellow hunters have been VERY impressed with the overal quality and clarity or the XM series binoculars.

 

On a side not I did find this review from a "non" hunting source

 

http://www.naturephotographers.net/articles0404/je0404-1.htm l

 

Like I said for the money you'd be hard press to beat this binoculars.

 

 

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If I were a hunting guide, or making a living in the outdoors I would consider spending more money for higher quality optics.  But I can't justify spending $1000 on a pair of binoculars when I only use them 10-12 times a year.  Besides, my wife would divorce me so it isn't an option

 

The reviews of the Carson XM binocs have been extremely positive.  In many stories, they've been used, abused, dropped, immersed in water, and are still functioning at a high level.  I'm leaning towards the Carsons at this point.  I'll let you know the outcome of the purchase, and will provide feedback on the binocs when I get a chance to use them in the field.

 

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You can buy the following 10X42 binoculars from a variety of different dealers for your stated price range, all of which will outperform the Carsons.  (By the way I HAVE personally handled Carson binoculars)

 

Bushnell Legends for around $130

Nikon Action Extremes for $200

Pentax PCF series I and/or II for $230

Bausch and Lomb Discoverers for $220

 

Obviously you will buy whatever you choose to buy, but in your price range any of these binoculars I've listed will far out-perform anything else available. 

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Just curious - what store advertises Bushnell Legends for $130???

 

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