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    Posted: July/26/2008 at 17:27
And as long as you use a torque limiting screwdriver, which screws could take more torque than the other is a moot point.
Your point is a good one when dealing with quality aluminum mounts. I use a Utica TS35 and generally torque rings to 25 inch-pounds for steel and 15-20 for aluminum - 25 for a magnum rifle.  Just as a side note, don't ever try to get close to that with cheap Chinese aluminum rings. I've seen them strip at 10in-lbs.  
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I like the looks of the DNZ, and first saw them in an scope review in American Hunter where they were used with a  Kahles KX 3.5-10X50 with the 4d reticle.
 
Interesting to note that SWFA  describes the Talley's as "Lightweight Aluminum 1" Scopemount".  Appears that Talley does not call them that, in describing them as an alloy, but not exactly the type of alloy, other than to differentiate the "alloy" from "steel".
 
I do not believe that either the DNZ or the Talley look bulky, and either would work for the application here.   And as long as you use a torque limiting screwdriver, which screws could take more torque than the other is a moot point.
 
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Now then, what makes them "bulky" compared to the Talley's?
 
I suspect that it has to do with the amount of "meat" left for threads used by the clamping screws. That and the quality of the alloy are critical for not stripping aluminum threads. I suspect that Tally relies strictly on the grade of aluminum that they use and that DedNutz relies on both thickness and grade. Sight unseen I suspect that you'll be able to put a bit more torque on the DedNutz's screws.

I like combined mount and rings concept like the DedNutz for it's strength, clean looks, and because DedNutz don't need to be lapped. Both rings are bored inline with each other. I have them on two of my rifles. But the DedNutz only looks good to me when the scope has a medium to large objective - say 40mm and up. Otherwise the bulk of the thick rings just doesn't look right which is why I have one on my desk. It didn't look right on a small 22 mounting a 3-9x32 Weaver.

Note that I also like Tally and have a set on order for my my compact Howa in .308.
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Originally posted by Mojo

Each to his own, but I do not understand how these Talley scopemounts could be construed as "bulky".  There is sure a lot more mass to the DNZ scopemount than the Talley.  Coming in at less than 4 oz., I do not see that the DNZ could possibly weigh less either.
I just happen to have a DNZ sitting here and it comes in at just under 3oz. That's because it's machined from Aluminum not steel.



The fixed, screw, and qd Talley's are steel. The lightweights are an alloy (not sure which elements) but I've checked them out and they are as advertised.

http://www.talleyrings.com/lightweight.php

The DNZ's do have a cool unique look!!
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Thanks for the weight measurement for the DNZ.  I weighed the Talley's in the packaging.  BTW, the Talley's are not machined from steel either.  They are lightweight aluminum scopemounts. 
 
Now then, what makes them "bulky" compared to the Talley's?
 
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Originally posted by Mojo

Each to his own, but I do not understand how these Talley scopemounts could be construed as "bulky".  There is sure a lot more mass to the DNZ scopemount than the Talley.  Coming in at less than 4 oz., I do not see that the DNZ could possibly weigh less either.
I just happen to have a DNZ sitting here and it comes in at just under 3oz. That's because it's machined from Aluminum not steel.

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I am wondering if that 50 is your Z6 that you were referring to, Mike?  Yes I agree that the 4a is sure nice, and my 4a will be on the Tikka. Thanks for your posting of the pix of the Talley.
 
Each to his own, but I do not understand how these Talley scopemounts could be construed as "bulky".  There is sure a lot more mass to the DNZ scopemount than the Talley.  Coming in at less than 4 oz., I do not see that the DNZ could possibly weigh less either.
 
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I am wondering if that 50 is your Z6 that you were referring to, Mike?  Yes I agree that the 4a is sure nice, and my 4a will be on the Tikka. Thanks for your posting of the pix of the Talley.
 
Each to his own, but I do not understand how these Talley scopemounts could be construed as "bulky".  There is sure a lot more mass to the DNZ scopemount than the Talley.  Coming in at less than 4 oz., I do not see that the DNZ could possibly weigh less either.
 
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The two piece version.

Mojo's right, medium rings for 50mm objective. Just went through this with Talley fixed rings
for my 50mm scope.



[Com'on Mike.  Where's the mental telepathy between us?  How about osmosis?  Just a little mojo? 
 
Just sent my highs back and the mediums are on backorder!!  Oh well............
My measurements indicated that I could have gotten away with low rings, but then no room for scope caps, and only 1/64th clearance.
 
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After installing the medium rings I figured I could have maaaybe gotten away with lows as well!! Too close now to opening day deer season for me to test with a set of lows so I'm thinking I'll wait until after the season to revisit this. I will say that I love the Talleys and the the new 4a reticle!! Wink


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The two piece version.

Mojo's right, medium rings for 50mm objective. Just went through this with Talley fixed rings
for my 50mm scope.



[Com'on Mike.  Where's the mental telepathy between us?  How about osmosis?  Just a little mojo? 
 
Just sent my highs back and the mediums are on backorder!!  Oh well............
My measurements indicated that I could have gotten away with low rings, but then no room for scope caps, and only 1/64th clearance.
 
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The two piece version.

Mojo's right, medium rings for 50mm objective. Just went through this with Talley fixed rings
for my 50mm scope.



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The two piece version.

Mojo's right, medium rings for 50mm objective. Just went through this with Talley fixed rings
for my 50mm scope.



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