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On Saturday I put on the 3rd Church Steel Shoot for my congregation.
Distances were from around 275 yards out to around 800 yards.  
Then for fun we back up to 1150 yards.  I shot both XP's at 1150, but from the prone position.
We had good conditions towards the end of the day and hitting the target got be be boringly fun.

I shot the the 284 Win XP and the 7mm SAUM XP from the sitting position at 400-675 yards.
They both shot real good.
SIDE NOTE: One thing I discovered on 284 Win is that I kept shooting high (just developed hte load last week and had not had the time to confirm drops).
Came home and added MV until it matched my drops at 675 and 1150 yards.
Currently working with a MV of 2759 with the 168 SMK. YIPEE!
Further confirming of drops will likely end up tweaking the speed/BC some more until the drops are hardened.

With all of that said I also used two different shooting rests for use when hunting in the seated position.
I was able to get out consistently out to 675 yards.
I did miss a couple of times at the 640+, but out to a little over 500 yards it was pretty much a sure thing with both designs.
I am pretty excited over that.

The BOG-GEAR/BOG-POD tri-pod is their CLD-3 combined with the PSR.
BOG-POD's site:
http://www.boggear.com/index.html

At around 500 yards I started to use a soft stadium seat to give me some support/stability.
Joel, my hunting buddy shot the 7 SAUM XP at 403 or 405 (can't remember).  
He made two first shot connections with it and had never used it before.


The other set-up with my Rear grip XP in 284 Win (McRee stock) is
Carbon fiber Promaster 325P with "The Claw."
They have updated the CLAW and now have the TriClawps as well.
http://www.triclawps.com/



BOG-GEAR's product is more lightweight, flexible and economical to use over a Carbon Fiber Tri-pod with The CLAW or their new TRI-CLAWPS.

At first, I thought the CLAW would have a big advantage, but it didn't.

This is my 2nd time to use BOG-GEAR's CDL-3 with the PSR at distance.

If one had an easy to adjust mono-pod that would work well with the grip of pistol combined with the tri-pod/CLAW one could get even further and with greater ease.

It took a lot of focus and fiddling with stance and grip to be accurate, but it is very possible.
I am going to be doing more work with both systems, and I really think that for the type of hunting I do, BOG-GEAR/BOG-POD is going to be my go to set-up.
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Always love your pics, EB. Super 
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Incredible pistols Ernie!
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Ernie,

Thanks for the pictures about your day at the range. I am assuming that you are the shooter in the green jacket and
hat. I have a question about the shooter in white/light gray is he fighting a bad shooting position trying to hold steady?


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Yes, I am in the green with the camo hat.
First, Joel had never shot like this before.
Second, one thing I learned as I was extending distance, is that when using the stadium seat cinched down tight, it allows you to then relax, sit back which allows me anyway to get out of the gun/not disturb it in the rest.
I am still playing with the system to find which way(s) work best.
Originally posted by dsr dsr wrote:

Ernie,

Thanks for the pictures about your day at the range. I am assuming that you are the shooter in the green jacket and
hat. I have a question about the shooter in white/light gray is he fighting a bad shooting position trying to hold steady?


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Very cool.  Let me know when you do it again.  Will give me a good excuse to visit my sister and her family in Gillette.
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Sometime in the fall before hunting season
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The head/pin relationship is a little to "loose" for longer distances so I thought I would put some Teflon tape around the pin that fits into the head of the tripod.  
I could immediately tell it tightened things up.
I intentionally did not do this on Saturday because I wanted to see how far I could go distance wise with it being unmodified.
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Ernie you have the best looking pistols.

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Just so that you know, Ernie, if you start getting hate letters from my wife, do not get too surprised.  A specialty handgun is near the top of my project list now, largely thanks to your damaging influence.

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Once you get it built, you need to hop on up here and play at distance on some steel.
I'm sure if you put enough different type of optics on it, you could probably write the whole trip off tooBandito

If you have questions on SP's give me a holler.
You looking at a bolt rig or a falling block action?

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Originally posted by Ernie Bishop Ernie Bishop wrote:

Once you get it built, you need to hop on up here and play at distance on some steel.
I'm sure if you put enough different type of optics on it, you could probably write the whole trip off tooBandito

If you have questions on SP's give me a holler.
You looking at a bolt rig or a falling block action?


For the moment, I am busy doing research and trying to figure out what I want.  I am leanin gtoward a falling block of some sort, but I am not 100% sure.

I am not looking for any sort of handcannon like you use and I am partial toward 6.5 Grendel, since I already have a rifle chambered for it and I like the idea of ammunition commonality.

I originally thought about an Encore, but now I am not sure.

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I am not a TC fan, but they will surely work. 
They are break-open action, both the Contender/G-2 and the Encore.

The only falling block action I know of is the MOA Maximum-I have several of them.
The 6.5x47 Lapua works great in them, so I know the 6.5 Grendel would as well in a 14-15 inch barrel.

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Originally posted by Ernie Bishop Ernie Bishop wrote:

Once you get it built, you need to hop on up here and play at distance on some steel.
I'm sure if you put enough different type of optics on it, you could probably write the whole trip off tooBandito

If you have questions on SP's give me a holler.
You looking at a bolt rig or a falling block action?


For the moment, I am busy doing research and trying to figure out what I want.  I am leanin gtoward a falling block of some sort, but I am not 100% sure.

I am not looking for any sort of handcannon like you use and I am partial toward 6.5 Grendel, since I already have a rifle chambered for it and I like the idea of ammunition commonality.

I originally thought about an Encore, but now I am not sure.

ILya
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Great work.. keep your flock tuned up.

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