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I've been working on making a decision now for about 3 weeks.
 
And I'm not further ahead then where I started!! I have lurked almost all of the major optic sights, and I still don't really know what direction I need to go.
 
I'm looking for a variable range scope that has an extremely wide range. I would like something as close to 1x as possible on the low end, and 10x+ on the high end.
 
I'm going to be using the rifle for varmint hunting and target shooting MOSTLY. That is why I want the lower 1x for close range aquisition, and the 10x for longer distances.
 
I'm hoping to spend around $700-800.
 
The scope I found that truely meets my needs looks at my budget on the way up, laughs, and continues on up.. On up to over DOUBLE my budget.
 
 
What other options are out there? I don't want to go higher then 2x on the low setting, and I want 10x on the high setting. There are a few options out there by burris, nikon, and I think a few more.. But I'm not 100% sold on those scopes.
 
Any help either suggesting something very similar to the swarovski, or convincing me one way or the other on the burris or nikon?
 
Thank you VERY much in advance. I've about lost my mind staring at internet page after page.
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Basically there are few using the new found ability to achieve the 5x magnification, Weaver or redfield one or the other is also doing this. the options are very limited in this area, for now anyways. Oh Welcome to the OT. 

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so you need something from 2x10 is what your saying
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That would be acceptable.
 
For $700-800.
 
 
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The only other variable alternative that you have that I can think of is a 2.5 X 10!....That should give you the same capabilities or thereabouts as the 1.7 X 10 Swaro!!..........There are a few quality scopes that variable!!!
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What if I were to compromise the other direction?
 
1.5/1.75 - 9x?
 
 
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Won`t really make that much difference in the field!......A 2.5x10, a 1.5X9, a 1.75 X9. They are all close and will do the same thing. The FOV may vary a little but it wont be a big deal in that dept.
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monarch gold sounds good to me
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i like the monarch and the burris but both have issues with there cs dept but for that kind of money you would think they would build a pretty solid scope.
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Hmm.
 
Well, they are all the same magnification.
 
Prices are close enough to be a mute point (at least for me).
 
Dependability, durability, longetivity, WARRANTY, etc..
 
Any further thoughts with those variables?
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I'll give a vote to the burris.  I have a couple.  A ffII and a Black Diamond.  I really like their scopes.  My black diamond is a heavy scope, but rugged.  Good glass and I like their Bal plex and Bal Mil-dot reticles.  Goods scopes all around.  Nikon would be my second choice.  I think you will like either one.
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i have a monarch and a fullfieldII i like both, the nikon has better glass, but its not a huge difference, i dont know about the gold vs black diamond as i havent looked through either, i think either is a solid choice, what kind of hunting are you doing??
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Thats the problem.
 
Jack rabbits from 10 yards to 50 yards.
 
Coyotes from 50 yards to 300 yards.
 
Really hard to find the right optic for that. I've shot sub moa at 100 yards with a Holosight (think ecotech if your not familiar with them), but I need/want magnification.
 
Ocassional paper punching duty, distances from 85 yards out to 300 yards again.. Although the local range has targets up to 1000 yards... ;)
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but no deer or hogs??
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your hunting coyotes and you have to be one of the first people i know of in here to say they wanted a lower power to handle close up coyotes congrats!! it can be scarry when they just appear at 25yds
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Not many hogs up here in Ey-D-A-Ho.
 
Deer? Not likely. If I had a tag and was holding the rifle at that time? Maybe then.
 
Ground chucks and picketpens will also be game.
 
I really (and have grown somewhat accustomed to) the quick target aquisition of a 1x optical. Don't get me wrong.. If I wanted to keep the tacti-cool factor high, I would keep the holosight.. But I'm more interested in accuracy.
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where at in idaho?
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North Idaho - Moscow area.
 
Originally from Salmon.
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i went to a basketball camp in moscow the kibby dome is cool, i like that area of idaho, i have a friend of mine who grew up in sugar city
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I would sacrifice on the lower end and rather have the 10x or 14x for longer distances. 2,5 times at the bottom end still gives good FOV and quick target acquisition.
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Of your three picks......The monarch would be my choice based on service and warranty, on the burris service has been dismal for years and since meade has taken over weaver its sunk to poor levels. My boss just went thru a long and unsatisfactory service fandangle with meade that was enough to wear out a very patient soul. Myself I have tasted burris quality and will never go that route again. Nikon doesn't have a perfect track record either as some searching here will reveal.....but I believe they are making the best effort to improve and would be the best of your choices. If you get a good scope and it develops no problems this will be a moot point.....if not you will get to experience from whichever scope company you choose.....their depth of service and quality/speed of their warranty work.

Its real hard to equal leupold and zeiss in this department.

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So far, the Nikon is getting all the votes.
 
Probably the route I will go.
 
Thank you VERY much for the advice.
 
Any other opinions or options in closing? I will probably make my decision by the end of the day.
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nikons a good scope you will like it i love all three of mine and i beat the hell out of them and havent had a problem yet. must be nice to be so close to lewiston and couer d aliene pretty part of the world there!

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Love it here.
 
Couer d Alene is out of control building right now. Its turning into a silicon Sun Valley. :( Still nice area.
 
Lewiston is Lewiston.. Stills stinks from Potlatch. :P
 
Great area up here, but I miss home. The local college slants too many views.. Not really the "Idaho" I love.
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