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Ive had to change some plans lately and I'd like some thought on this red dot from somebody that doesn't work for Bushnell/Millet. I cannot afford a CompC3 right now but I could swing the Millet Zoom-Dot. So far I've found a total of one review on the Millet and it was positive. Has anybody else used one? Looked though one? Given one any thought? I really like the idea of a variable dot size. 10 MOA for zombies in the house, 3 MOA urban rifle training classes, and 1 MOA at the range.




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Nice rig sholling! No experience, but I thought I'd keep an eye on this topic. Might be interesting.Get Your Popcorn Ready
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I like the dot changing size. I wish it had a reostat  fr adjusting the intensity of the light but otehr wise I like the site alot. Been running with one about six months now. No issuse.
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Originally posted by MikeMiller MikeMiller wrote:

I like the dot changing size. I wish it had a reostat  fr adjusting the intensity of the light but otehr wise I like the site alot. Been running with one about six months now. No issuse.
The brightness thing bothers me. The reticle of any illuminated scope including 1x aimpoints is visable from the front if set too bright.
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Nice Bravo Middy! Who makes your stock?  
Koshkin's used one. Might give him a shout, Sir.
 
 
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I have not broken mine yet.  It seems to work well enough for anything I might need out of it.  The self-adjusting dot brightness is occasionally a little dim if you are in the shade and aiming at a brightly lit object.  However, I found that increasing the dot size makes up for that.

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the multi size dot configuration was taken from tasco pro points , at least the idea, and were used alot in the Bianchi cup on revolvers, along with other types when first introduced . have had one for about 10 yrs. can't say as to the millett, but the problem is in the rachet detent that holds or sets the dot at each setting, if it becomes worn the zero is off. hardly ever use the biggest dot , and the tasco has 4 settings. the stock is make by a company CAA in Israel, which makes a very good product for 15, and 10s, the front folding veritcal on this gun is also CAA.
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the tasco has 11 intensity settings.
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Zoom Dot has continuously variable dot size and has little in common with the old Tasco you are referring to.

Completely different construction.

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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Nice Bravo Middy! Who makes your stock?  
Koshkin's used one. Might give him a shout, Sir.

Thank you. The stock is a Command Arms, the rail is Danial Defense, and the lower is DoubleStar with a G&R LPK, and an Adco enhanced 2-stage trigger. I was lucky enough to pick up a few sequentially serial numbered lowers as part of a 4,000 unit group buy put on by a 1919A4.com member. The poor guy that started the group buy had originally only planned for just 50 members and 50 lowers but as you can see within 30 days it had mushroomed into a bit of a monster. Big Grin

My second project is temporarily sharing one lower while I await another trigger, LPK and an EMOD stock. All are backordered or out of stock. Anyway it's an AR15Performance 6.8 Xtreme, with YHM Lightweight rail and Troy sight. For now it has the Burris XTR 1-4x24 tactical scope that I originally bought for the still MIA DMR upper. I'm debating keeping it there and saving the 4200 for something else.






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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I have not broken mine yet.  It seems to work well enough for anything I might need out of it.  The self-adjusting dot brightness is occasionally a little dim if you are in the shade and aiming at a brightly lit object.  However, I found that increasing the dot size makes up for that.

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Okay doing the math I'm looking at just about $300 for the Zoom-Dot, and about $110 for a good mount, or $410 plus shipping. An EO Tech 512 (listed as a 510 on SWFA) is $409. Am I just better off with the EO Tech? The CompC3 by the time I got a better mount on it would be over $500 and I don't really like the dot sizes. This will be my SHTF rifle.
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not debating the construction just the utility of the large dot, to wit, large dots fell out of favor---

sholling might want to get the rail cover inserts  or kevlar tac gloves as the metal tac rails have sharp edges when you move your hands around on the gun, eo isa better set up.

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Dale I noticed you had a Leupold Prismatic on the AR in your photo. Your thoughts between that and the Eo or the Zeiss reflex?
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Opps, I should have started a new post. Sorry.
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Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

not debating the construction just the utility of the large dot, to wit, large dots fell out of favor---

sholling might want to get the rail cover inserts  or kevlar tac gloves as the metal tac rails have sharp edges when you move your hands around on the gun, eo isa better set up.


I have Danial Defense ladder style cover for both. And I also have a set of Tango Down rail covers that may eventually go on the 6.8 if it gets too hot.


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Originally posted by Sparky Sparky wrote:

Opps, I should have started a new post. Sorry.
NP it's all the same subject - I'll share the thread. Wink
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How are you liking the burris tactical scope to date? they look like a good set up, I especially like the reticles? Have you used it in the dark?
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Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

How are you liking the burris tactical scope to date? they look like a good set up, I especially like the reticles? Have you used it in the dark?

I've been waiting 7 months for the two uppers and won't get a chance to shoot the 6.8 with and sight in the Burris before Wednesday or Thursday. Just from playing ninja around the darkened house I'm not seeing any light loss at all. None. At 1x almost seemed a tad brighter than the unaided eye. It's also absolutely 100% natural to use with both eyes open in a darkened room. Even more so in a darkened room than a well lit room.

Now for the ugly. The illuminated circle-dot is as bright from the front as it is from the rear but only visible if you're looking down the barrel. There is also one weird angle between 1 & 2 o'clock were the LED shows up very bright. I suspect that it's only an issue in very low light. But if you have night vision equipped ninjas stalking your home I'd consider dropping the scope and going to the BUIS because I'm guessing that the scope is going to show up like a sore thumb. But that's just an uneducated guess.

As a comparison my 4200's illumination is almost completely undetectable from the front. I have a spare LaRue mount and may try the 4200 as well and see if I like it better.

In anything less than super dark I think the XTR it will rock. Feral hogs beware!




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I've agonized over this long enough and did something about it today. The red light showing to the front bothers me more than medium (600-1000hrs) battery life so I did something completely different and ordered an EOTech. The EO runs about the same price as a ZoomDot by the time you add a decent mount. EOTech was also extremely helpful on the phone with my model selection and they are made in the USA. Try as I might I could not contact anyone at Bushnell/Millet that had a clue what a ZoomDot is, and no one at all at Aimpoint. That says a lot about a company. Bushnell really needs to start doing a much better job with training their customer service people beyond just reading specs from their (often wrong) website.  

Many thanks to all of those that chipped in their time and expertise to help me.


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 I would order the Zoom dot and give it a try. Then write an article on it. if you dont like it send it back to swfa.  Thier customer service is awsome
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