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im going to use it for target shooting out 1000yrds and lets say possibly deer sized targets from 50yrds out.
I hope im posting this question in the correct forum
 
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You will be hard pressed to get a 10 power scope on a target rapidly at 50 yds. You might be able to get on target with a 6x and a 4x or lower would be better at 50.  with a red dot aimpoint 1x being ideal at 50.   A 10 power scope would make a target at 1000 yards look like it would look with open sights at 100 yds. Hunting requires scopes with larger exit eye pupil size to gather more light in the evening compared to daylight target shooting.  For example a 6X 42 scope  has a 7mm exit eye pupil  (amount of light through the scope) to get that you divide 42mm by 6x = 7mm .  Many is the person wanting to shoot accurately at 1000 yds and few are the rifles that will actually do that with true accuracy. Lets say for example you had a rifle that would get to 1000 without the bullet going sub sonic since they become more unstable when dropping below the speed of sound.  For example a 300 Win Mag and lets say it was a Remmington model 700 which had been set up for accuracy at GAPrecision, action trued, rebarreled, McMillan stock, glass bedded, Badger Ordnance plus 20 moa base Badger medium rings and a 20 x super sniper.  --- great at 1000 and cant hit bambi at 50 cause you cant find the deer with the narrow field of view and about sundown the scope looks like you put on three pair of sunglasses.  Take a model 700 plain jane gun  308 or 30-06 put a 1.5-5X20  Leupold VX-III and you will be able to kill deer out to about 300 yds just by sighting it in at 200 and knowing where it will hit at 50, 100 and 300 add a glass bedding job and that is a hunging rig that will put meat on the table.  Will it shoot 1000 yds sure but with what level of accuracy - unlikely it will do what the one with all the gunsmith work will do.  If you only shoot in bright daylight a fixed high power like a 16 or 20 is OK but if you are in low light you better be able to dial down the power to brighten up the scope as it gets dark -- think 6x or lower in low light. Want a super sniper that you will ultimately be happy with buy the 10x yes you can hunt it but it wont work for rapid target acquisition like a lower power scope.  If  you really want a high power scope  like 16x or 20x on the top end, you need to go to a variable and be sure to get one with lots of internal adjustment and target knobs ( you are talking a thousand dollars +).
LEU60080 Leupold 6.5-20x50 Mark 4 LR/T 30mm Riflescope                                                                           Leupold 6.5-20x50 Mark 4 LR/T 30mm Riflescope
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  • 30mm
  • Side Focus
  • M1 Target Knobs
  • Free Leupold Flip-Open Lens Covers
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 This one is not a bad compromise, 100 moa of internal adjustment
LEU56130 Leupold 4.5-14x40 Mark 4 LR/T 30mm Riflescope                                                                           Leupold 4.5-14x40 Mark 4 LR/T 30mm Riflescope
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Hopefully by summer the variable super sniper will be released and at a better value than the  L scopes.

Edited by Urimaginaryfrnd - December/04/2008 at 00:42
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i will be blueprinting the rifle in the next few months i am a machinist that hopes to expand into gunsmithing from what i have seen from the few gunsmiths that use a lathe and mill they only know a little about the whole field of machining which potentially dimenishes there ability, at least from what ive seen where i live, a couple friends have had work done at a couple popular well known places which cost over $1000 and parts were NOT up to what we considered acceptable, but yes i think i may get the 10x SS but i may wait for that vari SS,
I greatly appreciate your help and insightful knowledge.
 
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If I were you I would go with the Leupold 6.5x20 lrt which sells in the $700.00 range. I thinks its a much better scope. I use it on a .50 bmg from 100 to 2,000 yards. At 20 power the glass is much better and alot brighter than the SS 20x, (I have both) The Mark 4 is better yet but alot more money. 
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a good investment in quality glass is never a mistake... I have learned the the cheapest part of a good rig is the rifle.
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If I had a blank check, I would go with a variable regardless of the type of shooting I will be doing or the range. The reason is when you have to deal with mirage you are stuck with a fixed power scope. With a variable up at 10X and the mirage is giving you hard time, you can dial back to say 7x. If you have limited funds ( as do I) and you decide to go with a fixed power scope, the supper sniper is the best in the bunch for the money spent. As far as which power, you get the most field of view with the 10x and the most mirage issues with the 20x.
The 16x is a compromise. 
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