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Got my Cooper Excalibur back . I previously had a Kahles Helia C 3-12x56 on it. I also have had 3 rifles in 2 years with Swarovski and Kahles 50-56mm on them. After reading all of the comments on here and hunting so much with my .223 this year (it has a 4.5-14x44 Conquest).............I realized you guys are right and there is not much need for a 56mm scope on a deer rifle for hunting in the SE U.S. !
 
So I went back with a Conquest 3.5-10x44 on my Cooper and put some low Leupold mounts on it . I immediately like the way it looks better and it feels more manueverable and lighter as well. Maybe it's just in my head............but I definately get better cheak weld and really did not realize what I was missing as far as that goes. I'll never go back with large scopes again !
 
I was testing at dark again last night and this Conquest can do all I want it to do. At 8:20 last night I would have still been able to shoot my deer target at 75 yrds in the woods . I was comparing my Leica Ultravid BR 10X42's and while they are clearer ...........my Conquest is very easy to pull up after setting the bino's down and get on target ! Just don't feel like I lost anything substantial from my 56mm scope in low light !
 
Anyway..........thanks for all the advise and education. I have learned a lot on here and I appreciate it !!
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I have one 50mm scope and don't plan on getting anything bigger!  I'll keep the 50mm, I used it with no issues this past deer season.
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Where objective becomes an issue is in low light and higher magnification.  At 3X, a 44mm will give you all the light you can use.

I hunt hogs in Texas, and most shots are low light, some are 300+ yards, and I hate tracking injured, pissed off hogs in brush at night - so I prefer to drop them on the spot.  In that scenario, a larger objective helps allot.

For a 75-yard shot, I agree, almost never a need for > 44mm.  For a 300 yard shot on a 30-pound piglet (which, by the way, taste great!), you're gonna want a little more magnification and a little more light.

For every situation, there is a perfect tool and there are many unperfect tools that work.
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Yeh.........I guess I never really get shots over 150 yrds much at all . I hunt one place a couple times a year that offers 200-350 yrd shots but I don't think I would take one in real low light !
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Rancid, wouldn't 44mm give you all the light you could use up to 6X, rather than 3X? The exit pupil would still be over 7mm.

I think as compact a scope as you can get away with is nice, but recognize there are trade-offs. With my 32mm objective, I might find it hard to take a shot at dusk on 10X but wouldn't hesitate to do it at 5X. I wouldn't be taking a shot past 200 yards anyway at that time of day and hopefully much closer.
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wouldn't 44mm give you all the light you could use up to 6X, rather than 3X
 
- yes it would, probably just a typo
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