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Subject: Fw: Dallas solution to illegal aliens
 
This is a good easy solution ... no politicians ...............


 
 RE:  Dallas solution to illegal aliens  

I have a friend who is president of his homeowners association in the Dallas , Texas suburbs.  They were having a terrible problem with litter near some of his association's homes.  The reason according to my friend is that six very large, luxurious new houses are being built right next to their community.

The trash was coming from the Mexican laborers working at the construction sites and included bags from McDonald's, Burger King and 7-11, plus coffee cups, napkins, cigarette butts, coke cans, empty bottles, etc.  He went to see the site supervisor and even the general contractor, politely urging them to get their workers not to litter the neighborhood, to no avail.  He called the city, county, and police and got no help there either.

So here's what his community did.  They organized about twenty folks, named themselves The "Inner Neighborhood Services" group, and arranged to go out at lunch time and "police" the trash themselves.  It is what they did while picking up the trash that is so hilarious.

They bought navy blue baseball caps and had the initials "INS" embroidered in gold on the caps.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand what they hoped people might mistakenly think the letters really stand for..

After the Inner Neighborhood Services group's first lunch time pickup detail, with all of them wearing their caps and some carrying cameras, 46 out of the total of 68 construction workers did not show up for work the next morning -- and haven't come back yet.

It has been ten days now.

The General Contractor, I'm told, is madder than hell, but can't say anything publicly because he could be busted for hiring illegal aliens.  My friend and his bunch can't be accused of impersonating federal personnel, because they have the official name of the group recorded in their homeowner association minutes along with a notation about the vote to approve formation of the new subcommittee -- and besides, they informed the INS in advance of their plans, and according to my friend, the INS said basically, "Have at it!"

SO, FOLKS, I THINK YOU COULD SAY THAT TEXAS INGENUITY TRIUMPHS AGAIN!

Reminder: Don't forget to pay your taxes....... 12 million illegal aliens are depending on you.

No apology for sending this! ! ! After hearing they want to sing the National Anthem in Spanish - enough is enough. Nowhere did they sing it in Italian, Polish, Irish (Celtic), German or any other language because of immigration. It was written by Francis Scott Key and should be sung word for word the way it was written. The news broadcasts even gave the translation -- not even close. I'm NOT sorry if this offends anyone because this is MY COUNTRY - IF IT IS YOUR COUNTRY SPEAK UP -- please pass this along.  Come through like everyone else. APPLY FIRST - Get a sponsor; have a place to lay your head; have a job; pay your taxes, live by the rules AND LEARN THE LANGUAGE as all other immigrants have in the past -- and GOD BLESS AMERICA!
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I love it.  I think thats hilarious!
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Excellent

I will stand an applaud that, and laugh my ass off in the process.
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Great solution!
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That works for me. I hope they didn't move here to Ga. though. Nah probably went further west. I hear California is interested in having as many as they can get.
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A couple of friends of mine were working in the San Wakeen Valley (I know I mis-spelled it) in Cal. many years ago. There was a bar in the middle of nowhere that they liked to go to, the problem was, so did the illegals. One night the bar was crowded with illegals and they didn't think they could find a place to sit. One of them walked in the bar and held the door open while the other one stood outside and yelled BORDER PATROL. Two minutes later they walked into an empty bar and ordered their drinks.Bandito 
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Originally posted by cyborg cyborg wrote:

That works for me. I hope they didn't move here to Ga. though. Nah probably went further west. I hear California is interested in having as many as they can get.


Yep it is true. That's why this time next year I'll be living in Texas!
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Mexicans are a double edged sword, as far as I'm concerned. They ARE doing jobs that Americans WON'T do and are doing so at a decent wage!
 
I get tired of people popping off about "Messicans" working for $4 bucks an hour and thats the reason business owners hire them.
 
In MY world...the world of construction...these guys are busting their asses and bringing home a decent check. (The same money an American would be making, if they would go out there and do it.) I'm not sure of the percentage that pay taxes, but it's higher than you'd probably think.
 
Sad truth is, here in the South, we have a bunch of ass sitters that won't show up, don't have a drivers license, can't work a full week because of a myriad of personal issues, poor or no work ethic and have to go to court for some BS every other day.
If you run a construction business in my AO, you will most likely have Latinos working for you. They show up, shut up and work.
They are quick learners and aren't afraid to jump in there and work in 100 degree days....EVERY day!
 
NOW....they are typically messy, ram jam, throw it together, devoid of craftsmanship, safety be damned kinda dudes too, but, general contractors aren't paying for quality any more, they want SPEED and PRODUCTION.
They are also a drain on every conceivable social program and have kids coming out the wazoo. I get it. I also resent the fact that they came here illegally and undermined the legal system and WONT integrate into American society, as they should. 
 
I blame LBJ's Great Society, in part for this ordeal. Americans have learned it's easier to sit on your ass and collect your knocked up girl friends welfare check, than it is to show up and work for it.               
 
The above is based on my personal experience. I've been doing concrete work for nearly 23 years and I live it.  
I know theres hard working whites and blacks and I'm speaking generally, but theres a reason Latinos are working these jobs and it ain't because they are doing so for a ridiculously low wage, folks. It's because they want to work.
 
(I'm soooo going to get fragged for this post.) Mean Computer 
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no fragging from me.  generally the truth.  I have no desire or hardfelt feelings towards anyone in the US "legally".  I do have hard feelings to those that employ anyone that is illegal to bypass the system.  IF and only IF we make it that they can't get a job without citizenship, more will become legal.  IMO
 
Although that still doesn't address the lazy arse MF's that live on the system


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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

no fragging from me.  generally the truth.  I have no desire or hardfelt feelings towards anyone in the US "legally".  I do have hard feelings to those that employ anyone that is illegal to bypass the system.  IF and only IF we make it that they can't get a job without citizenship, more will become legal.  IMO
 
OK, why do you hold a business owner to a higher standard than you hold your  Federal and State government?
Why should he be punished for employing someone that the State gives a drivers license too and the Feds allowed to come here by not enforcing border laws?
Riddle me that, Batman?  Wink
 
So, the nations immigration enforcement now belongs to Joe's Lawn Care who employs illegals (with State drivers licenses) to mow grass because American citizens typically won't do it??
Why should he care, if the gubmint don't?? Why can't the business owner ASSUME that the person is here legally, if he provides proper ID and a SS#.
MOST all illegals do have a drivers license and a fake SS card, you know.  
He just needs guys to cut grass, for Pete's sake!!   
 
That dog won't hunt for me, Gents. I'm sorry. Fining business for hiring illegals is chicken sh*t politics!   
 


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I'm not saying its up to Joe Blow.  If they give all that its fine to hire them.  how else would he know they where illegel you wouldn't.  I'm more or less talking about the people that KNOW they are illegal and are paying them cash under the table and not paying taxes, thats what gets me.  yes the US goberment is nothing but utter bullcrap when it comes to its immigration policies and until we get some people in office that care it will just keep getting worse.
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I don't believe anyone has an issue with the work ethic of legal Mexicans, Its the illegals that are ruining it for the law abiding ones.
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I'm with you, but we out here need bodies to work! And most people in business are paying a decent wage to get that done.
Don't believe the BS from talk radio people telling you these Mexicans are working for virtually nothing either. That's just not the truth.   
We need to staff concrete, brick, framing crews and various other trades with people that WANT and WILL work.
I don't give a hot damn where they come from! I'd MUCH rather give a job to a able bodied American, but I fired EVERY American that I ever hired due to the issues mentioned in my earlier post.
 
 
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Originally posted by lucytuma lucytuma wrote:

I don't believe anyone has an issue with the work ethic of legal Mexicans, Its the illegals that are ruining it for the law abiding ones.
 
MOST, and I mean close to 100 percent of the Mexicans around the job sites here are illegal. Some Honduran and South American Latinos are legit, but not the Mexicans.
Thats a fact. A sad fact, but a fact.
 
I personally know ZERO legal Mexicans, to the best of my knowledge.
 
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The system has been jacked up for a long time. The democrats want them for votes the republicans want them for labor.  30 yrs ago I could stop a van load of illeagals in San Antonio and couldnt get border patrol to deport them from there. They simply can not afford the cost of enforcement. How about we brign our troops home and take over Mexico and split it into 4 or 5 more states. Lets take it all the way down to the panama canal and build a shorter taller fence.
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Illegals are a thorny issue. We have them coming in from Zimbabwe and Mocambique. The borders are very porous and they just stream through.
Mostly they work for less pay and they work harder then the locals. Every now and then one or two gets upset for being "exploited" and takes a machette or something nasty and hacks the boss.
The locals also get pretty upset with the aliens for stealing their jobs. Then we have xenophobia attacks and the aliens get robbed, stabbed and burnt out.
I personally do not like to employ them, as I do not understand their culture. I also get angry that they are happy to vote a-holes into power in their own countries, who stuff it up, and then they want to come and work in ours.
At best a difficult problem.


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Wes hit the nail on the head. The government does not want to deal with the illegal issue because they're beneficial to both parties. Dems = votes and the GOP = cheap labor.
 
It's time States take matters into their own hands. The time of waiting on the government to do something is over. It's up to the States (like Arizona) to enforce what the federal government won't. I am sickened that a US administration would SUE, f**king SUE, a US State over a law when it's just an extension of what the federal law is (that isn't enforced).
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Concur, 8!
A sticky wicket, to be sure.

A machette?!?
Most that will happen here is you might get a taco slung at ya, if they get upset.
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I'm with you all that want something done with the problem, but its not as simple as Glen Beck and others make it out to be when they say "run 'em off".
For better or worse, they fill a ginormous void here in my area, in regards to the labor force.

I still don't get how folks want to bag on business owners for hiring them, when the state and the feds created a perfect storm in the first place.
I know over 100 Mexican illegals that waltzed into the NC DMV and came out with valid drivers licences.
Both state and feds give them food stamps, subsidized housing, FREE medical care, and then rattle their sabers at the business owners and threaten them with sanctions.
And, as was illustrated on this post, most well meaning Americans support burning business for hiring them.
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If the gubmint kicked the moochers off the tit and they had to work for a check, secured the border, then maybe we can institute some form of sanctions against business.
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Cheap, i understand the mentality but just because person A (the government) doesn't help fix the problem, doesn't make it right for person B (the business owner) to continue f**king up the system. It's like passing the buck down the line. If people stopped hiring these asshats, they would stop coming. It really IS that simple.
 
BUT, please read this first, i understand that you couldn't do business so again, i completely understand where you are coming from, doing the work you do. I just think it's wrong to put the blame entirely on the goverment, although they are the main reason why we don't have a better system.
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Shooter, illegal commercial concrete finsihers make as much as the American finishers.
I can't speak for the Mexican fruit pickers in Cali, but "cheap labor" is a moot point here in my AO.
They have jobs because they show up and work.
Concrete laborers start around $8 an hour. Seasoned form carpenters and finishers go for about $12-$16 an hour.

Nobody I know pays an illegal minimum wage.
Its always more.
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Oh, i know, i'm not arguing the wage scale that people seem to throw out there all the time.
Do you want to know why the average American won't work for that???
 
It's because you can now sit on your ass for 2 years on unemployment, making far more than that wage. And people wonder why Joe the Plumber won't get off his ass to work hard labor. Our entitlement society, where freebies are handed out EVERYWHERE with no control or oversight, is the reason why illegals are the only ones who scoop up the work. Younger generations are getting more and more spoiled and are used to having everything done for them up through high school and even moreso into their 20's nowadays.
 
If you took away the social welfare programs and told people you had 6 months, not 2 years to get back out there, you'd see more whites on the labor force imo.
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Well Shooter, we'll have to agree to disagree on how "simple" this problem is.
When I see a valid state drivers licence, a social security card, what other I'd should I ask for?
Should I water board perspective employees to see if their here "legally"??

C'mon man...
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I'm not saying it's literally THAT simple. But, i gave your reasons in my last post why all you can hire are illegals. Entitlement society.
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Oh, there's a price to pay for allowing the entitlement crowd to mooch and the boarders to leak like hell.
I agree with that!
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