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I want to start of by saying that I am not wanting to start any arguments, or looking for ANY negative comments!!

  I am no expert, but did do a comparison of these two scope, I am a hunter foremost, but do a lot of target punching also. I made my wife compare the two scopes as well as another good hunting friend. After we were finished all three of us were in total agreement on the results.

Ok, the two scope that I compared are ...   Zeiss conquest 4.5-14X44 one inch tube  vs IOR 4-14X50 30mm tube.

 This is how I tested the two scopes I took the rifle that already had the zeiss mounted, and taped the IOR right beside it with a piece or bubble wrap between them, so that neither would get scratched or damaged. This allowed me to look through both scopes by only moving my head a couple inches. I heve done this before and it works better than haveing to put one rifle down, and then pick another one up. I feel that to accurately compare the two for light gathering and sharpness, this is the best way to compare them because you only have to slightly move youre head back and forth.

  I compared the scopes in the morning in foggy conditions, mid day for sharpnessand crispness, and right before dark for crispness, and light gathering.

I compared construction and the turrets and click for adjustment. I compared both scopes looking across a field and reading writing at different distances in different light situations to look at crispness and sharpness. I allso looked into heavy woods at a deer target at 150 yards away, that was set roughly 20 yards into the woods. Here is what I found.

Both scopes are very good, and probably worth the money. Mid day, both scopes seemed to be equall in clarity and sharpnesswhen looking through the dead center of the scope. In lowlight, and at night by full moon, the Zeiss gathered more light than the IOR even with smaller objective and tube diameter, which stunned me. I was shocked that the zeiss out performed the IOR in this area. The next thing that the zeiss outperformed the IOR in was while looking through the scopes, the clairity in the Zeiss was very crisp and clear all the way to the edges, the IOR got blurry pretty quick when looking towards the edges of the scope, and this was in any light situation. This was VERY noticeable to my wife and hunting partner also.  The only thing that the IOR beat the conquest in was rugged build. I feel that the IOR was built to knock people in the head with if you need to and not worry about, man is this thing built to last! Also I like the click adjustments better on the IOR, they are positive crisp clicks, I liked them better than the zeiss.  I feel that the Zeiss is a defanite favorite in the lowlight situation, which I still cant believe. With the edges getting blurry on the IOR as qick as they do, I think that for the money, thats kind of bad. Overall I am shocked at how much better the Zeiss performed in these areas than the IOR. I whish I could have let you know about how it held up to shooting, and how well it tracked, but if I had mounted it, I wouldnt be able to return it. This turned out to be smart, because the scope was sent back, and I will be ordering another zeiss to take its place.

 

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Interesting, are you sure you had the focus for distance the same on both scopes? the IOR usually has excellent glass  Both are quality scopes something was definately wrong with or on the IOR.

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Both scopes were set at same power, and properly adjusted. I have been around scopes for a long time, out of my two scopes the zeiss was a clear winner. I have heard for quite a while about IOR, but I think I will stick with the conquest. Im not saying the IOR was Bad, I was impressed when I first looked through it, It was only after close comparison to the conquest, that I started seeing a difference.
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My experience has been a bit different and I like IOR scopes and prefer them to the Conquest.  However, everyone's mileage differs.  You compared the scopes side by side and if Conquest looks better to your eye, that is what you should go with.

Just out of curiosity though, do you know when the IOR you used was made? and whether it is the hunting or tactical model? and whether it is the scope with older T3 or newer MC7 coatings.

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It was the hunting model, I got it last week from swfa and they had to order it from IOR because it wasnt in stock. Im not sure about the coating at all. I know it didnt have the blue ring like the older ones.

  I knew that this was going to be very hard for many people to believe, that is why I almost didnt even post it at all. However I have read soooooo much on here about the IOR that I had to post what I found, just in case anyone was looking at the same two scopes for themselves.

  The only thing that I can think of is if the IOR wasnt quite up to par and should have been rejected at quality assurence, however it just slipped through the cracks and made it out the door.

  Let me go into a little greater detail on this scope. when looking in normal light conditions, the scopes appear equall. All three of us thought so, however if you looked close to the edge of the scope, the conquest was crisp almost all the way to the very edge. The IOR started getting blury pretty quick, I would say that only 4/5 of the field of view could you read a liscence plate at 100 yards.  This was what made me send the scope back, I felt this was unacceptable. I will admit my wife, and my friend neither one noticed this untill I told them what to look for. After explaining to them how to check this out, they quickly pointed out the same thing that I said earlier.

  As for the low light, when compairing the two scopes at the deer target, or looking in the woods, it was very hard to see that either was superior to the other, untill I started trying to read a liscence plate about 100 yards away. While doing this I could read the liscence plate easily with the conquest after The IOR was unreadable, and yes it was same power and focus was properly adjusted.  These are just what I observed, and it is not scientific, but I think it was a fair test, as it will be close to the way the scope will be used in real situations. 

  I am very well aware that I might have recieved a bad IOR, and that anything can happen, however, untill I have a chance to look through some more IOR's of other peoples, I wont buy anymore for myself. 

  I drive a dodge with a cummins, and sware by it, however I have friends that swear they have had bad luck with cummins, and that duramax is the only way to go. I think they are crazy as they think I am. The point is that I was soo excited to get my new IOR, and it was a total letdown to me, and if I just happened to get a bad one, thats unfortunate, but thats life I guess. 

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