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Harold, Texas ISD will be the first school district in the nation to allow teachers and staff to carry weapons in school.

"When the federal government started making schools gun-free zones, that’s when all of these shootings started," Superintendent David Thweatt said. "Why would you put it out there that a group of people can’t defend themselves? That’s like saying 'sic ’em’ to a dog."

The gun policy Teachers and staffers in the Harrold school district can carry firearms beginning this fall if they:

  Have a Texas license to carry a concealed handgun.
  Are authorized to carry by the district.
  Receive training in crisis management and hostile situations.
  Use ammunition that is designed to minimize the risk of ricochet in school halls.
 
 
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Definately think it would be a good idea.
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It won't let me vote!!!!!! I am all for it in any school. There should be someone that has the means to be able to save lives, and limit the amount of terror that so many are having to face right now.
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      Unless schools want to set up entry check points w/scanners and what not,I see no other solution. We pro gun people know that ALOT of crimes are thwarted by those CCW holders and law abiding people with guns at home. If it was publicized more most would see that what Harold,Texas is doing is not all that radical. Tell ya what! Criminals know better than to screw around here in WV. Ya'd think we got some kinda reputation or something.
 
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I voted yes, But there will need to be some strick  gun safty classes the teacher will need to go thru first. I also think the teacher must pass the some classes police officers do in terms of shooting.I know teachers here the are dumb as a door nail and I wouldn't want them anywhere around me or my child with a gun. I know this would fix ALOT of the problems we are having but It would't solve all them and it might create more.I want GOD back in school and the pledge said every morning along with a prayer.
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Just playing the devil's advocate here.
 
Do you think the teachers that are known to be armed would become their first targets?
 
What if a kid was getting bullied and normally he would be upset for a few hours and get over it and would not return the next day with a gun.  But in the heat of his anger, he knows where he can get a gun quickly (from a weak female teacher).  Should they be required to take a class on weapon retention and be required to use a retention type holster?
 
What if a teacher gets disgruntled and goes postal on another teacher.  Don't forget where the term postal came from.  Should pistol backing teachers have to undergo some psychological evaluation first.
 
What about potential law suits from money hungry attorneys claiming as educators they should have helped their troubled child through counseling and other methods, not by shooting him because he lost it one day.  Not to mention innocent bystanders getting hit in cross fire.
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I believe that the armed teachers would be kept a secret. That way they wouldn't be targets, also then the general population know some are just not which ones, certainly lessens the chance that someone will act a fool.
 
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Originally posted by Chris Farris Chris Farris wrote:

Just playing the devil's advocate here.
 
 1) Do you think the teachers that are known to be armed would become their first targets?
 
  2) What if a kid was getting bullied and normally he would be upset for a few hours and get over it and would not return the next day with a gun.  But in the heat of his anger, he knows where he can get a gun quickly (from a weak female teacher).  Should they be required to take a class on weapon retention and be required to use a retention type holster?
 
 
3)What if a teacher gets disgruntled and goes postal on another teacher.  Don't forget where the term postal came from.  Should pistol backing teachers have to undergo some psychological evaluation first.
 
 4) What about potential law suits from money hungry attorneys claiming as educators they should have helped their troubled child through counseling and other methods, not by shooting him because he lost it one day.  Not to mention innocent bystanders getting hit in cross fire.
 
1) this would be true, but if the teacher and the teacher assestain was packing would one still think about this the same? or the person in the next classroom.
 
 
2) I can see where this could go very wrong. but menatly would a student have the balls to grab a gun from a teacher or would they be scared in thinking they would use the weapon? Then this brings up a will the teacher shoot a kid for telling her he hates her?psycho student will do that just to get a rise out of the techer adn if the teacher felt threatend would she use force?
 
 
3) yes they should atleast once a year when they get certifyed in the shooting class.
 
 
 4) there is now way around this one" damn if you do.Damn if you don't"
 
 
 
This would need to be by the book so so many levels.Child evaluation,teacher evaluation and there is probably many more to add to this.
 


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There are all kinds of issues with this and I agree they need to have some good training, and not just a typical BS CCW class.  Take some gun handling classes, tactics classes, hostage situation class and so on.  I think there will be very few teachers who want to take on that kind of responsibility.  It is a big thing being willing to be the protector of other people in a public place like that. 

But at least if they had a gun come into the school they would have a fighting chance, not just be victims like every other school shooting. 
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I agree not many teachers will willfully carry. But i do know some here the have class 3 license .I have went and shoot with them. They are professors thought not just the average teacher.

 

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OK, here's my take.

IF the district is smart about it your not going to ID the teachers who have the RIGHT to carry. They may not be in fact carrying, but ALL have the POTENTIAL to carry, and that is BIG.  The district may indeed only allow a few per school to carry, but as long as its not advertised I think it will make a perp think twice before going off in a School.

Thank God for some school board administrators in the Harold county these people need to get to the National level.

IMHO

   Mike


Edited by Steelbenz - August/18/2008 at 14:41
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I'm glad I no longer have kids in school.  A lot of the teachers should require more training and psychological evaluations for all the other crap that goes on. Sex, Drugs, and guns.  Can I go back to school?????Yippee

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I voted 100% based on the requirments. If the individual doesn't display the disipline and self control, they have no business with a firearm.

The gun policy Teachers and staffers in the Harrold school district can carry firearms beginning this fall if they:

  Have a Texas license to carry a concealed handgun.
  Are authorized to carry by the district.
  Receive training in crisis management and hostile situations.
  Use ammunition that is designed to minimize the risk of ricochet in school halls.
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