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I am thinking of getting a takedown 22LR rifle of some sort to practice with.
I am interested in a takedown rifle so that it would fit in an innocuous looking bag.  
My time is very limited these days and I do not get to go to an outdoor range a whole lot.  However, there is an indoor range not far from my house where I practice shooting pistols and where I can practice off-hand shooting indoors with it.

I do own an AR-7 which, in principle, fits the bill, but it is a somewhat crude rifle with a mediocre trigger.  I am looking for something with a more conventional forearm, that has a feel somewhat closer to a hunting rifle.  I do not particularly care whether it is a bolt gun, semi-auto or single-shot.

Is there anything out there that would fit the bill?

In principle, I could get a 22LR upper for one of my AR-15, which would be fairly compact when disassembled, but I would rather have something made of wood and steel (if possible at all).

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Browning semi auto 22, very nice rifles, learned how to shoot with one.
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The best I have found for practical .22lr with precesion.  Fusion by Volquartsen.
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  Marlin 39A
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Originally posted by 338LAPUASLAP 338LAPUASLAP wrote:

The best I have found for practical .22lr with precesion.  Fusion by Volquartsen.


+1 I have used this in 17 HMR and it is very accurate. Even after multiple disassembles and reassembles. 
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Thanks for the suggestions.

Volquartsen looks to be out of my price range (unfortunately).

I like leverguns, so I will keep my eye out for a takedown Marlin 39 (I do not think they make them any more).

Browning semi-auto also look like a good option and it is actually in production which likely makes it easier to find.

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 Well sure they still make the 39A as a take down.  From the Marlin web site:
 
   " Remarkably, it can be disassembled in seconds with only a coin."
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The 39A'3 are fun little rifles. They are very simple to work on or clean.
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I was going to recommend the Browning, but the 39A is a tack driver. I don't own a .22 lever gun, but if I was going to get one, it would be a 39A.
 A friend has one with a Bushnell 4x, and we used to shoot the ends of coke cans at 200yds with it.


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I have both the brownign take down and teh marlin 39, the browning is much more compact and lightweight, the marlin feels more like a "stout" gun.  Your daughter would be well taught with it one dayWink
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

I have both the brownign take down and teh marlin 39, the browning is much more compact and lightweight, the marlin feels more like a "stout" gun.  Your daughter would be well taught with it one dayWink

Both of those seem like they have length of pull proper for adults.  I suspect I'll need something with a shorter stock for Julie.  That is as good a reason as any to get another rifle...

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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

I have both the brownign take down and teh marlin 39, the browning is much more compact and lightweight, the marlin feels more like a "stout" gun.  Your daughter would be well taught with it one dayWink

Oh, can you take a picture of the two of them side-by side for me?

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Will do tonight.
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Originally posted by 300S&W 300S&W wrote:

 
  Marlin 39A
 
 
 
Exactly what I was thinking....a Marlin 39..
 
 
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Here ya go ILya, sorry for the crappy cell phone pictures, not sure where my camera is.   The biggest difference I can tell you is weight between the two.  Also you can see the size difference of the barrelled portion of the 39a is much larger.  if you need anymore or any specifics let me know.
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The pictures really show how small and nimble the browning is.
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Thanks for the pictures.

I looked up the dimensions of both rifles to be sure and it looks like the Marlin is out of the running unless I find an older model with a shorter barrel.  

The bag I have in mind as my "ready to sneak out to the range" kit is a couple of inches too short for the Marlin's 24" barrel.  That is a shame really, since I like leverguns.  Either way, it is perhaps better to look for an older Marlin.  Ever since Remington took over and moved production fit and finish of Marlin leverguns I have seen went to ... cow manure.

I suppose unless I round up the cash for the Volquartsen or find a used Marlin with a shorter barrel, I will look for a Browning locally somewhere to see how it fits me.

Thanks for the help, gentlemen.

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I suppose unless I round up the cash for the Volquartsen.

ILya


My buddy found a used Volquartsen Fusion for under $1,000 that looked like new. So you might check for a used one. I have a Standard that I found for $600 new. The dealer was not going to sell Volquartsen anymore.
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http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/SelfLoading/70PSS.asp this may not be as crude as the ar7, still pretty crude....
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Something a little different you might consider is the BRNO ZKM-611. It is a beautiful rifle chambered in .22 magnum, has an excellent reputation for accuracy and can be had in the takedown version. It is a little more pricey, but nothing obscene. It also points naturally and the frame is small enough it shouldn't be a problem. I put a couple links to pictures below.

http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/4529174310/8316827/0e9bd425ef72c9d686cca6a1ea9dec85.jpg

http://www.gunsamerica.com/userimages/845/949501059/wm_md_1918426.jpg
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Well, I just searched for the ZKM-611 on a couple auction sites and the only ones listed are collector grade and obscenely expensive so my suggestion may have been fairly useless. I have seen them for sale in the past for significantly less, usually around 500-600 dollars and they are really great firearms if you can find one at that price. 
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Graham,
How does that little Browning shoot, it's really a pretty little gun? When I was a kid my older cousin had one of old Belgium guns and I always really liked it but when I got old enough to afford one they started making them in Japan. After that I kind of lost interest in the little Brownings even though my guess is that the Japanese guns are made better than the old Belgium ones. After seeing yours I may just re think this and go look at one.
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It shoots just how it looks, purdy good. lol.   You can actually mount a scope on them if you want to, the barrel it drilled and tapped so your scope stays on your barrel not the receiver.  I don't have a target that I've shot with it I could post but I know I use to pop empty shotgun hulls off a post at 25yds when I was younger.  Its taken a many a squirel out in its day too. 
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I will be shooting it off-hand, which, with my shooting skills, makes the intrinsic accuracy of the rifle an absolutely moot point.  I am a lousy shot to start with and truly terrible off-hand.  That is really the reason why I want this rifle: to practice (and I want another rifle anyway since there is still some space in the safe).

ILya
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