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I am not knowledgeable when it comes to scopes so here i am.

The gun is a .308 Molot VEPR with a 20" barrel i want to make a DMR rifle. I have a SM-13 Arsenal picatinny mount now i need a scope. I want to keep the scope under $300 but the lower the better. I will not be hunting with this rifle its target shooting only. I would like to try to shoot out to 500 yards with it but 100-200 yards is more likely most of the time.

I had heard that Bushnell elite 10 power was a good scope so i began looking into it. The reviews i have read are very mixed some people love it some say its junk. I have been reading though old posts here on the forum and people have talked about Bushnell using 3200 series parts on 4200 series scopes and that lead to quality problems? If i was to buy a new production Bushnell Elite Tactical would it be a decent scope?

So then i looked into the Redfield Revolution/Tac 3x9. It seems to be a good scope and i like that its variable power but it seems to be made for .223 will this be a bad choice for a .308?

Then i came across the SWFA SS line and it seems like a great scope. I am looking at the fixed 10 power i like that it has external adjustable turrets. But im not sure which model to go with the MRAD or MOA. I have astigmatism and rarely wear glasses so im thinking the bigger mildots might be easier to use if im not wearing glasses.

I have read on the forum that 6 power is enough for 500 yard shooting but my eyes are not great so id like a bit more do you think 10 power is over kill for 200-500 yards?

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Get the 10x Mil/Mil.  It is much easier if the adjustments match the reticle.

There is not a difference in the size of the mildots with the MOA vs Mil version. 
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+1 on the SS 10x mil version.
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Ok that's the answer i pretty much expected everyone seems to love the SS.

Now about choosing scope rings. Here is a picture of my VEPR with the rail mounted its perfectly level with the rear sight. Assuming the bell of the scope interferes with the sight im trying to figure out how tall rings would have to be to clear it.

Since the SS is 42mm i would divide 42x2 than add about 3mm to clear scope covers so im looking at 24mm or 0.94" correct?





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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:


There is not a difference in the size of the mildots with the MOA vs Mil version. 


Another dumb question but how exactly do you use MIL dots and MRAD's? My friends got a Nikon prostaf with mildots for holdover but his turrets are not easily adjustable. If you have the ability to dial in yardage/meters are the mildots just a faster way to get on target without having to adjust turrets?

Sorry for the stupid questions im just now learning this stuff. But the mildots look bigger than the mrad's to me so someone please explain?





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You order a mil dot master with your new SS scope. It's by far the best tool to learn how to use a MIL reticle
http://swfa.com/Mil-Dot-Master-P91.aspx
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As for the differences between the mil dot and mil rad reticle go to the tactical section of this board and you will find a sticky with SWFA SS reticle subtensions.
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Originally posted by agalloch07 agalloch07 wrote:


Since the SS is 42mm i would divide 42x2 than add about 3mm to clear scope covers so im looking at 24mm or 0.94" correct?



The 42mm is the objective lens diameter and does not take into account the housing around the lens. The bell diameter is actually 49.5mm. With a 49.5mm bell diameter and a 30mm tube you will have 9.75mm of the bell below the tube.

Here are the specs on the SS10x.

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-10x42-Tactical-Riflescope-P53712.aspx

SS rings. Note the different measurements. Some rings are measured to the center of the rings and others are to the bottom of the rings. The SS rings would be a good choice or I also like Warrne for inexpensive rings.

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-Aluminum-Mounting-30mm-Rings-C3056.aspx
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