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Does anyone know a smith or competent metalworker who can put a tactical bolt handle on a Winchester 70 bolt?  I have called and email smiths all around the area and no one seems to care to mess with a model 70.  Any info would be nice.  Thanks guys ahead of time.
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My smith put a badger one on my FN SPR.  He said it would be the last one he did.  lol
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This guy has a good rep for doing fast and excellent work.  http://www.rdprecision.net/pricing.html
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Do a search over on the hide, there is a guy out of Az. that does what looks like good work.
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Originally posted by Steelbenz Steelbenz wrote:

Do a search over on the hide, there is a guy out of Az. that does what looks like good work.


That would be this guy.  http://www.azprecisiongunsmithing.com/About_AZ_Precision.html
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I will call them but the websites don't mention work on the Winchester.  There are alot of local shops that will do the rem and savage but they all say the metal is to hard on the winchester so we will see.
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Note how its being done, or rather how you want it done. Are you wanting the end cut off and larger heavier already threaded part attached or are you wanting the complete bolt handle replaced, welded? Lots of difference in strength, cost. If you want win. type action with a heavier bolt, Kimber is better way to go.
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Dale,  WOW, thats a lot to think about. I had only really thought about just turning the existing knob down and threading the end for a badger. What would be the advantages of getting one over the other.  My primary goal is to have a better grip.
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most bolt handles are small and conform to the contour of the stock on purpose, as the guns are used for hunting where wt. and snagging is a real concern. tactical add ons increase the overall length which increases the amt. of leverage when cranking on the handle. If you are into cycling the shot as soon as the last shot breaks, to get on the second shot sight picture as soon as possible, the stress at the junction of the threading is increased a lot. Some smiths will remove the entire bolt handle and replace the unit with an overlapping type, either welded or screwed into place at the junction of the bolt. The cost difference is considerable more, but just be aware if you get quoted as to what seems a very high price.
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Ok, thanks Dale,  I have seen bolt handle units for sale and always wondered the advantage of getting  new one vs the factory one with a knob installed.  I think for my application, paper puncher, the knob install only would be ok versus a new handle all together.

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Here is another guy that does them.  http://www.shortactioncustoms.com/
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my thoughts are is it really worth it to "pimp" out a winchester?? remington and savage usually are way more accurate, and most smiths will readily work on the latter two rifles.
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You can't be tacticool at the range without an aftermarket bolt handle.

I can't tell you how many tactical bolt handles I've sen on rifles (with shooters) that couldn't hit sand if they fell off a camel.

Save the money on the bolt mod, spend it on ammo, shoot more.
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

Here is another guy that does them.  http://www.shortactioncustoms.com/
 
Got this guys name from AZprecission. They are the only ones that will mess with the winchester so far.  Shipping off as soon as it comes back from Douglas for the install of a badger.  Thanks ST for all the help. 


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i guess i could see where it could be an advantage on a hunting rifle though, gives you more to hang onto when running the bolt on follow up shots.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

my thoughts are is it really worth it to "pimp" out a winchester?? remington and savage usually are way more accurate, and most smiths will readily work on the latter two rifles.


A friend took his Weatherby Vanguard to a smith and asked him to put a Timney trigger on it.  The smith said, "Why?" I thought it was very funny.  The friend did not.


Tacticool!
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

You can't be tacticool at the range without an aftermarket bolt handle.

I can't tell you how many tactical bolt handles I've sen on rifles (with shooters) that couldn't hit sand if they fell off a camel.

Save the money on the bolt mod, spend it on ammo, shoot more.
 
While it does give it that flair of tacticool, i shoot a lot with a glove on my right hand because of a finger injury years ago, and sometimes it is nice to have a larger handle to grab. 
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If it is purely a paper-puncher, my advice stands.

I have friends that put a pingpong ball over the bolt handle and duct tape it on: ain't pretty but it works and is cheap, and I'll be damned if it doesn't give more than enough area to grab on.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

my thoughts are is it really worth it to "pimp" out a winchester?? remington and savage usually are way more accurate, and most smiths will readily work on the latter two rifles.
 
Rifle has some sentimental value to it, its being rebarreled now.  It sat dormant for years in my safe and i wouldn't shoot it, now I think its time to break it out and try to make it my toy for the same reason it sat for years, it means more to me than any of my other guns.
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biggest advantage of getting one on a factory install is the warranty, or one like Savages which just slides on and off. Some actions are built from the ground up with the heavier units, Gap,Surgeon etc. and also it gives more leverage on unlocking, if the case is somewhat sticky, they also have greater use on bolt throws of the 90 deg, type with lesser on 3 lug , 60 degree throws.
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

my thoughts are is it really worth it to "pimp" out a winchester?? remington and savage usually are way more accurate, and most smiths will readily work on the latter two rifles.
 
Rifle has some sentimental value to it, its being rebarreled now.  It sat dormant for years in my safe and i wouldn't shoot it, now I think its time to break it out and try to make it my toy for the same reason it sat for years, it means more to me than any of my other guns.


if the rifle has some much "sentimental" value why alter it, you would be changing the rifle into something else then. maybe im looking into it to much, but i have the first rifle i ever bought and i wont change anything about it, not for function not for fashion. if i do that its not the first rifle i ever bought anymore its just a rifle i bought long ago that i changed. scope swaps dont count.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

my thoughts are is it really worth it to "pimp" out a winchester?? remington and savage usually are way more accurate, and most smiths will readily work on the latter two rifles.
 
Rifle has some sentimental value to it, its being rebarreled now.  It sat dormant for years in my safe and i wouldn't shoot it, now I think its time to break it out and try to make it my toy for the same reason it sat for years, it means more to me than any of my other guns.


if the rifle has some much "sentimental" value why alter it, you would be changing the rifle into something else then. maybe im looking into it to much, but i have the first rifle i ever bought and i wont change anything about it, not for function not for fashion. if i do that its not the first rifle i ever bought anymore its just a rifle i bought long ago that i changed. scope swaps dont count.
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