OpticsTalk by SWFA, Inc. Homepage SWFA     SampleList.com
Forum Home Forum Home > Scopes > Rifle Scopes
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - swift scopes
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Visit the SWFA.com site to check out our current specials.

swift scopes

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
Author
Message
oneshotonekill View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper
Avatar

Joined: October/11/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 6
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote oneshotonekill Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: swift scopes
    Posted: October/13/2007 at 16:37

hello, just need to know if anyone has a opinion on swift scopes? i'm thinking of buying one for my 204 ruger. its model srp 678m premier.

                                                                                                            

                                                                                                                                                                                                                thanks

if you run you will only die tired
Back to Top
Mike 30-06 View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper
Avatar

Joined: July/24/2006
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 8
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike 30-06 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/13/2007 at 16:52
One word " D O N ' T "
Mike 30-06
Back to Top
oneshotonekill View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper
Avatar

Joined: October/11/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 6
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote oneshotonekill Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/13/2007 at 17:20
are they that bad?
if you run you will only die tired
Back to Top
matc View Drop Down
Optics Apprentice
Optics Apprentice
Avatar

Joined: April/30/2007
Location: PA
Status: Offline
Points: 55
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote matc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/13/2007 at 19:05

I read somewhere that the swif  are still two piece tubes .     I don't remember where I read that or if its true.  Maybe somebody will post if that statement is right or not.  

 

matc

 

Back to Top
RONK View Drop Down
Optics Master Extraordinaire
Optics Master Extraordinaire
Avatar

Joined: April/05/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3199
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RONK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/13/2007 at 20:43

I think that all else being equal, a one-piece tube is to be preferred of course, but there are very good scopes with two and three-piece tube assemblies and very poor ones with one-piece tubes. That should not be a determining factor in scope selection, since most scopes consist of dozens of parts anyway. Shoot me down if I'm wrong here, boys!

 BTW, I have heard some pretty good things about Swift riflescopes, but have never used one myself.

Back to Top
pyro6999 View Drop Down
Optics Retard
Optics Retard
Avatar
OT TITAN

Joined: December/22/2006
Location: North Dakota
Status: Offline
Points: 22034
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pyro6999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/13/2007 at 22:18
swift makes a pretty good scope for the price and there warranty is awesome, you dont send in a broken scope you take it back to where ever you bought it and they hand you a brand new one over the counter and send you on your merry way, swift has been making optics since the 1920's, and they make everything from bino's to microscopes and there stuff isnt to bad the premiers i looked through i found to be pretty comparable to nikon buckmaster or a burris ffii, and if you think about an optics company doesnt stay in business for that many years by making a crappy product, so if thats all the money you wanna spend then go for it
They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"
Back to Top
RONK View Drop Down
Optics Master Extraordinaire
Optics Master Extraordinaire
Avatar

Joined: April/05/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3199
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RONK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/13/2007 at 22:23
 That's good to know about Swift's customer service, Pyro. Thanks for the additional info...
Back to Top
cheaptrick View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar

Joined: September/27/2004
Location: South Carolina
Status: Offline
Points: 20844
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cheaptrick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/14/2007 at 03:57

I never thought Swift was a bad scope. Like Pyro mentioned, the return policy is great.

 

http://www.swfa.com/pc-8461-380-swift-8-32x50-premier-rifle- scope.aspx

This her??

 

I'd probably try to talk you out of such a high magnification though. Low priced scopes and high magnification are bad mojo, friend.

You'll have WICKED mirage issues with that scope. I would venture to guess you'll never be able to use much of that scope's magnification after 20x or so when it's hot out. Even the barrel's heat going to produce some mirage

 

A good rule of thumb:

With few exceptions, a lower priced scope ($200), will perform "much better" in the lower magnification ranges, if it'll perform at all. 

The more you crank up that power ring, the less optical performance (usage) you'll have...(Shrug.)  

 

http://www.swfa.com/pc-1892-220-nikon-45-14x40-buckmaster-ri flescope.aspx

This scope would be a good option as well. 



Edited by cheaptrick
Back to Top
oneshotonekill View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper
Avatar

Joined: October/11/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 6
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote oneshotonekill Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/14/2007 at 05:24
thanks everyone for the info,it's very helpful. yes cheaptrick thats the one i'm looking at. i must admit that nikon really looks good to! i also was looking at the v series weavers, maybe i will save up more money and buy a nikon or weaver  thanks again to everyone for the info
if you run you will only die tired
Back to Top
pyro6999 View Drop Down
Optics Retard
Optics Retard
Avatar
OT TITAN

Joined: December/22/2006
Location: North Dakota
Status: Offline
Points: 22034
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pyro6999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/14/2007 at 08:07
my bro in law has a bsa that goes up to like 16x or something and it is so cloudy to look through, all the 3x9 swift scope i have looked through were great i was thinking of putting a 4-16 or something in a swift on my 22-250 and i might still but more than likely i would go with a 3x9
They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"
Back to Top
RONK View Drop Down
Optics Master Extraordinaire
Optics Master Extraordinaire
Avatar

Joined: April/05/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3199
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RONK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/14/2007 at 08:42
For some reason, that relationship  between otherwise decent economical scopes and poor perfomance at the higher magnifications doesn't seem to be discussed very often. It is very true and very well worth remembering.
Back to Top
cheaptrick View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar

Joined: September/27/2004
Location: South Carolina
Status: Offline
Points: 20844
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cheaptrick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/14/2007 at 09:33

Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

For some reason, that relationship  between otherwise decent economical scopes and poor performance at the higher magnifications doesn't seem to be discussed very often. It is very true and very well worth remembering.

 

I don't know how else to say it without the risk of appearing rude, Ron.

Koshkin and me have harped on the "less is more" stuff for YEARS....

 

High mag scopes create more problems than they solve in the low, to even some of the medium priced units.

The upper echelon optics can "cut the mirage" better, but mirage is still a point of contention for them all.  

Back to Top
pyro6999 View Drop Down
Optics Retard
Optics Retard
Avatar
OT TITAN

Joined: December/22/2006
Location: North Dakota
Status: Offline
Points: 22034
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pyro6999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/14/2007 at 09:39
i have shot some leupold fixed powered scopes and for some reason they werent bad with miraging, and they were older m-8's one was a 12x the other was a 24x both has parallux adjustment on them and sunshades.
They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"
Back to Top
Ghost Rider View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper
Avatar

Joined: May/22/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 40
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ghost Rider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/14/2007 at 12:19
A buddy of mine has swift scopes on a couple of his hunting rifles. He is the average Arkansas deer hunter, a 30-30 and a 30-06. I load for him and check his rifles for zero before hunting season every year. He might shoot a dozen rounds a year. He is a hunter not a shooter. These scopes serve him very well. I wouldn't trust the repeatability of the turrets but the glass isn't bad. The average hunter would be served very well by one. The fact that you can take it to the store and trade it for a new one is awesome if you ask me, that or they don't even trust their own product.....As far as "cheap" scopes are concerned, I have a 6-18X50 Bushnell Banner that I just happen to like and TRUST very much. I won't use the turrets, but have beat the hell out of this scope over the years and it has never lost zero. This scope is about $125 and even comes with Mil-Dot ret. This thing is kinda like a cheap crack whore, not as pretty but you can get 10 times your money's worth. Not that I would know from experience of course(the crack whore I mean)!!
Bronze Star w/"V"...down graded...Article 15,Section 8
Back to Top
oneshotonekill View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper
Avatar

Joined: October/11/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 6
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote oneshotonekill Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/14/2007 at 12:41
how about muellers? i wish there was a dealer where i live so i could look through one!
if you run you will only die tired
Back to Top
Graysteel View Drop Down
Optics Apprentice
Optics Apprentice
Avatar

Joined: October/02/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 200
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Graysteel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/14/2007 at 13:12

Ok, I am sure this is going to get me shot but.... I have had good luck with the run of the mill Bushnell scopes such as the Banner scope that GhostRider Mentioned. If you need a moderate priced scope I would give them real consideration.

I know this one is 50% more pricey but... seems a good choice if you were willing to step up a bit in price.

http://www.swfa.com/pc-9838-184-bushnell-5-15x40-elite-3200- rifle-scope.aspx


Back to Top
RONK View Drop Down
Optics Master Extraordinaire
Optics Master Extraordinaire
Avatar

Joined: April/05/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3199
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RONK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/14/2007 at 13:21
Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

For some reason, that relationship  between otherwise decent economical scopes and poor performance at the higher magnifications doesn't seem to be discussed very often. It is very true and very well worth remembering.

 

I don't know how else to say it without the risk of appearing rude, Ron.

Koshkin and me have harped on the "less is more" stuff for YEARS....

 

High mag scopes create more problems than they solve in the low, to even some of the medium priced units.

The upper echelon optics can "cut the mirage" better, but mirage is still a point of contention for them all.  

When I said it doesn't get discussed often, I didn't necessarily mean HERE....

  Besides, some of us haven't BEEN here" for years". Sure didn't mean to ruffle you, Old Boy....

Back to Top
cheaptrick View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar

Joined: September/27/2004
Location: South Carolina
Status: Offline
Points: 20844
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cheaptrick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/14/2007 at 13:34

My apologies, RONK. My comments weren't directed to you, Brother. 

 

I just hate to see people come on here, buy a lower priced scope with a BIG ass 8-99x power ring on it and expect it to really perform for them out in the field. 

It's kind of a sore spot with me is all.....

 

 

 

Back to Top
oneshotonekill View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper
Avatar

Joined: October/11/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 6
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote oneshotonekill Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/14/2007 at 13:38
that bushnell looks good but i want a little bit more power. i will be using it for small varmits at long ranges and paper punching.i also was looking at the weaver v24. i own two v16's and they have great optics. i did not mean to cause any riffs between members. i forgot to mention that i got $350.00 +/-   i know i'm not going to get the best optics for the money i got to spend but i would like to get good optics

Edited by oneshotonekill
if you run you will only die tired
Back to Top
RONK View Drop Down
Optics Master Extraordinaire
Optics Master Extraordinaire
Avatar

Joined: April/05/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3199
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RONK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/14/2007 at 19:58
Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

My apologies, RONK. My comments weren't directed to you, Brother. 

 

I just hate to see people come on here, buy a lower priced scope with a BIG ass 8-99x power ring on it and expect it to really perform for them out in the field. 

It's kind of a sore spot with me is all.....

 

 

 

Nah, I'm cool Bro...

BTW, anybody know where I can get a GOOD , cheap variable in the 8-99 power range?

Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.01
Copyright ©2001-2018 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.469 seconds.