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Anyone have this scope? I have it and it's awesome. I'm learning about the scope and need some in depth help on the mil dots, milrads, etc. I think I have most of it figured out, but would like to talk to someone specifically, an expert, etc. about these special scopes. Any help would be appreciated. It's on my bushmaster Ar10 .308. Look out hogs. Thanks.
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Would like to talk on phone: easier. Just to understand milrads, ffp, etc. I'm just learning about this technical mid level scope and would like to fully understand. I am in tennessee. Appreciate it. My phone # is cell. If you don't want to do that, it's fine. Clay

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That's not a problem, but I don't have time right now to be on the phone with inbound calls.
 
What do you have questions about and I'll do my best to address them for you.
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Maybe you can call later. I forgot that I shouldn't put my ph. # out. Any way to edit the post? Basically, the scope is not in MOA but mil radian. Is using the turrets the same as the MIL DIAMONDS such as .36 or 1/10 milliradians and ten make 3.60 "'s? Posts would be too long. Thanks skyler.
I'm ex veteran, police officer, and retired and always willing to learn.
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Ph# has been edited for you.
 
That is correct, the SS uses MRAD adjustments. I'll get your email from your account and foward some information to you.
 
 
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Yes, each click will move the strike of the round approximately 0.36 inches; however, the beauty of a mil reticle and a mil turret is that you no longer need to think in inches.  If the correction is 0.3 mils, put in 3 clicks on the turret ( for 0.3 mils of correction).  With that scope, a 0.3 mil correction is a 0.3 mil correction, regardless of whether you are at 15X or 3X.
 
Stop thinking in inches (it gets complicated at ranges above a few hundred yards) and adjust in mils.
 
Hope that helps.
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Sorry about the ex. I understand. No matter what, ten clicks will move the strike point 3.60 inches. I have the scope sighted in using that. So, the mil reticle diamond to diamond or reticle plane line to diamond is or equal to 3.6 inches; correct? So, looking thru the scope at a hog at any distance, if I want to move my POA from neck to head, and the distance is 2 mil diamonds, that would equal to 7.2 " correct?
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And .5 mild = to 1.8 ", but always think/ go by mils, right.
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Originally posted by Ds1962 Ds1962 wrote:

Sorry about the ex. I understand. No matter what, ten clicks will move the strike point 3.60 inches. I have the scope sighted in using that. So, the mil reticle diamond to diamond or reticle plane line to diamond is or equal to 3.6 inches; correct? So, looking thru the scope at a hog at any distance, if I want to move my POA from neck to head, and the distance is 2 mil diamonds, that would equal to 7.2 " correct?
 
You have to stop thinking that way.
 
MOA and MRAD are measurement of angle, not linear measurements.
 
When building a deck in the back yard, you don't tell you buddy to cut the board 3 MOA.  You take your tape, measure off how much you want to cut and cut, because you read that measurement.
 
Now, use your reticle that way.
 
Looking at a target, shoot....If you miss, hold the reticle in the same place you were aiming. Now count how many mils off you were.
For example, if your miss low and to the right. Look at the reticle, determine how low, then make your adjustment. Do the same for your windage.
 
So if your are 3.5 mils low, you will turn the turret 35 clicks up.
 
Make sense?
 
 
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Check that email out that I sent you. There are two attachments that will also greatly help with this explanation in full detail.
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Originally posted by Ds1962 Ds1962 wrote:

Sorry about the ex. I understand. No matter what, ten clicks will move the strike point 3.60 inches. I have the scope sighted in using that. So, the mil reticle diamond to diamond or reticle plane line to diamond is or equal to 3.6 inches; correct? So, looking thru the scope at a hog at any distance, if I want to move my POA from neck to head, and the distance is 2 mil diamonds, that would equal to 7.2 " correct?
 
Incorrect!!!!!
 
At 100 yards, and ONLY at 100 yards, 1 click equals 0.36 inches.  At 200 yards, that same click moves the round 0.72 inches, and at 500 yards, that same one click moves the round 1.8 inches.  This is why I say correct in mils, not in inches.  A click is always (making certain assumptions) a change of 0.1 mils; a click is NOT always a 0.36 inch change.
 
Correct in mils, forget the inches!
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Originally posted by Ds1962 Ds1962 wrote:

if I want to move my POA from neck to head, and the distance is 2 mil diamonds, that would equal to 7.2 " correct?
 
Answer = make a 2 mill adjustment or 20 clicks (10 clicks = 1 mill) just as you measured in the reticle. Range does not matter.
 
 
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I've got it now. Waiting to test it out on some hogs, but none yet. Also, I'm waiting for my new Geissele SSA trigger to come, hopefully tomorrow, to fine tune my group at 100 yards. I don't know if I can get a tighter group with the .308. Also, I'm going to try the Winchester silver tip ballistic 168 gr. round comparing it to the Barnes TSX 168 gr. Fps is only 20 different, plus a few bucks cheaper. With the trigger, I should be able to place my shot precisely. I will keep you updated.    
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Hello everyone, I just received my SWFA SS 3-15x42 the other day, and I was getting to know it but I removed the N2 port sticker on accident. It was the one under the Ocular adjustment focus, not the Turret. I put it back on but it is sloppy now, And well I guess i just want to know if that was a big No No, or that it's not a big deal and i don't need to replace it or anything crazy... Any help would be much appreciated, thanks.
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Originally posted by FreedomFries22 FreedomFries22 wrote:

Hello everyone, I just received my SWFA SS 3-15x42 the other day, and I was getting to know it but I removed the N2 port sticker on accident. It was the one under the Ocular adjustment focus, not the Turret. I put it back on but it is sloppy now, And well I guess i just want to know if that was a big No No, or that it's not a big deal and i don't need to replace it or anything crazy... Any help would be much appreciated, thanks.

No big deal. 
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hi I also just got my 3-15 sofa S's scope and luv it.  I would also like some info on mil mil and the scope specifically.  From what I understand I zero the scope then take off the knows and then re install so that my zero is shown on the know adjustments?  I also plan on getting a custom know made for distance for my favorite load so I need info on how to take the current elevation know off and put a new one on.  Do I use lock tite on the 3 screws ?  I would love a pic manual for the scope if there is one available.  Thanks for the great scope and any info you can send to my email, dlongfield@gmail.com would be greatly appreciated!
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Originally posted by banditbump banditbump wrote:

hi I also just got my 3-15 sofa S's scope and luv it.  I would also like some info on mil mil and the scope specifically.  From what I understand I zero the scope then take off the knows and then re install so that my zero is shown on the know adjustments?  I also plan on getting a custom know made for distance for my favorite load so I need info on how to take the current elevation know off and put a new one on.  Do I use lock tite on the 3 screws ?  I would love a pic manual for the scope if there is one available.  Thanks for the great scope and any info you can send to my email, dlongfield@gmail.com would be greatly appreciated!
Sure, what would you like to know about MRAD? Just some general knowledge or is there something specific that you don't quite understand?
 
The turrets are re-setable.  Once you have located what's know as a "True Zero" you will take the supplied allen wrench, loosen the three set screws around the turret.
Lift the turret cap off the scope, rotate it to where the " 0 " is looking at you. Depress it back into the turret housing and tighten the set screws back down.
 
Currently custom Turrets are not available for the 3-15. But when they are, you will buy them from SWFA and send them to a company called Kenton Industries. They have several configurations available that you can have your custom turrets made.
 
NO! Never use lock tight. I suggest investing in a torque wrench and torqueing everything down to manufacturer specifications.
 
Unfortunately a manual is not available for the 3-15 yet. I have had a lot of irons in the fire and have not had the opportunity to start on that one. But I will be more than happy to assist you with any questions that you have.
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Thank you very much Skylark that is all I needed on scope info, I had just seen earlier in the thread where you sent the op some pdfs, I guess those were diagrams on the reticle and the like. I would be interested in them as well. Thanks for the timely response
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