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Has any one else seen this?  Some other place selling SS scopes.  Take a look at this web site and notice the 20x for $239.99.  Does it lhttp://www.bullseyesupplies.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=bullseyesupplies&Product_Code=TA20X42ook familiar?   
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Paul, my friend, The Rules of Engagement here state that we are NOT to post links to other optics vendors.
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Secondly, that scope is a SS knock off.
Notice the "20x42" on the objective. The real deal doesn't have that.
To my knowledge, if it don't come from SWFA, it ain't a true Super Sniper.
 
 
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I sincerely apolize for violating the rules of engagement.  I will be sure to not have this happen again.  Thank you for pointing my over zealous error.
On the other point you made, please take a look at this URL.  It is NOT from any other optics vendor.  It is from SWFA.  Take a look at the objective end of the scope pictured.  Thanks for you comments. 
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Weeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllll now this should be in interesting conversation.
That's no knock off if the photo represents the actual product being sold, looks like it might  be  a real deal with a modified shade.
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I didn't think you were trying to pimp another optics vendor on this site, Paul.
 
I guess I'm wrong about the markings on the objective. My 10x doesn't have it, I'm more than certain. I should have checked into that before shooting my mouth off.
 
Curious... 
     
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I wonder what Chris thinks about that.  I suspect it is a knock off, since the words "Super Sniper" or "Made in Japan" are not in the description.  I wonder if the picture matches the product.  It looks like someone swiped it from SWFA.

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It is my picture for sure.  We had one of each SS factory samples with the markings on the obj like that.  I took them to a photo studio in Dallas and we shot them from the behind and on top of the ocular.  The picture is supposed to be displayed verticle, look at the lighting and the angle.  Our web guy put that same image on our site horizontal too and it always bothered me, so we replaced our images a while back.
 
There is some sort of fraud going on here for sure, we need to order one and see what shows up.  I'll call them tomorrow and pose as a customer. 
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Whoa!!!!  Something is really up with this place.  I was trying to find a phone number and came across this.
 
CORPORATION :::: 1-800-579-2650 ONLINE NOW Thanks. === ::NOW ON SALE St. Patrick's Day SALE RARE LEUPOLD 3-9x40 VX-II Riflescope Duplex From Leupold's Custom Shop OD GREEN!!! LEUCS56780 Factory New in a Box $239.99 BUY Before there are gone AS you know almost all OD GREEN Scopes are on Backorder for WEEKS WHY WAIT! IN STOCK WILL SHIP IN A WEEK!!! HURRY WHILE SUPPLIES LAST!!! THIS A CHANCE TO OWN A RARE Leupold's Custom Shop OD GREEN!!! CUSTOM SCOPE. AS STATED ON THE OBJECTIVE BELL::-- ENGRAVED USMC M40-- FREE SHIPPING
 
There were only ever 200 of these made and we bought them all.  So that is two products on their site that SWFA is the only source for.


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Something funny is going on for sure.  I saw that same thing about Leupold and thought it was a bit strange.  I hope you get some hard data and see exactly what is going on with these people.  Maybe these are chinese copies.  I have read about a lot of product fraud going on.  Hope you keep the forum readers up to speed on this.  At least I do know one thing for sure.  If I get it from SWFA then its what it is suppose to be and SWFA backs what they sell.
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 Well, whoever is promoting it sure knows his stuff...
 (You can tell, simply by the way this 20x scope, complete with MIL-DOTS, is described as being ideal for hunting African LEOPARDS!!!)    Say%20What
 
 
 
 Hoo Boy.
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DO not forget that the 20x42 configuration is ideal for the maximum amount of light to get to your eye.  Also apparently that scope has Index Matched lenses.  Should we tell Leupold?

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It's obviously a copyright infringement as far as the SS goes, that pic belongs to SWFA. This is likely an overseas thing, and fraudulent. The Leupold is probably a knockoff and likely a P.O.S.    Chris please keep us advised as to what you find out here.
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No one answers the phone.  Something is not right for sure.
 
He is even using our stock numbers.  LEUCS56780
 
They don't have a good rating with the BBB
 
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I have to wonder why they are using your stock #'s?  This whole thing just makes my sphincter itch. They're selling a scope which is exclusive, and also one that is of limited quantity. WTF? Selling them for less as well. How can this be happening? I can see how the Leupold might be possible, but an exclusive scope? I wonder if your contractor is screwing you, or what? Is there a shipment that was stolen?  
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Any bets that if you send money you don't bet a scope. Somewhat like a UGANDA scam with no recourse.
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BBB ratings are worthless anyway...IMO.
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Originally posted by cyborg cyborg wrote:

...  This whole thing just makes my sphincter itch......   
 
Damn....... that is WAY TO MUCH INFORMATION!  Loco
 
 
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I usually just browse on here but I suppose its time to start posting.  First off, anyone who would give their credit card # to a website that looks like a horny 17 year old created it on geocities is well.......insane!!  Did you also notice on those custom VX-II's they start describing the features of VX-L's Whacko
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Well, Nic
Good call and welcome to O.T. I can't help but notice where you are from. Good show!

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Thank you Doug.  Haha, I suppose I didn't hide my loyalties too well Wink
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I think you will be in good company around here. Some of our most experienced members are Leupold fans. I own several myself and I am completely happy with them.
I do want to try the Super Sniper, though. The only tactical scope I have is the discontinued Leupold 6x42 and it is a very good scope. I want to try a bit more magnification and the 10x42SS is my next ticket. I sure won't be getting it from the boobs the O.P. brought up. I'll get it straight from the folks that bring them to us, SWFA.
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[ I'm not going to post anything here until Cyborg gets his sphincter under control........thank you]                        Speedy

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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

[ I'm not going to post anything here until Cyborg gets his sphincter under control........thank you]                        Speedy



What do you mean, we're on line. If he shats himself he's not anywhere near me.
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It appears to me this is an object lesson for newer members to buy your products from well respected, well known businesses.  Like SWFA.
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