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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rem .308 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/21/2016 at 11:11
it would seem that way, i should have clarified. and research has probably gotten the best of me here. I read in a forum, don't  remember if it was here or not, and it was probably just one mans opinion but he made the argument that there was an advantage other than just the gain in elevation. it doesn't make sense to me to add something thats not needed, and for my needs i don't need a 20moa base. it seemed he was making the argument for barrel and scope alignment wish i kept track so i could post the link, if i come across it again ill post it. but he was even proposing a 30moa base to support his argument. im certain he wasn't promoting the elevation gain. (realy feel up a creek without a paddle here without the supporting link)

sorry Probably too little information in my explanation here, im over the elevation thing. and you are correct cheaptrick .308 win with 175 smks. ive shot out to 600 yards, have not shot past that. 


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1000 yards, with 175s you will need 10 to 11.5ish mils depending upon elevation and stuff.  So with a scope with 40 mils available a 20 moa base is not needed. 

But if you plan on shooting longer distances often a slanted base will keep your erector more centered in the scope tube at those distances.  Supposedly you will get the best scope performance from a scope if it is centered.  Also if you plan on getting a different scope in the future that may not have the adjustment range a SS has you may want that 20 moa base now so you don't have to buy twice.  Plus it is just fun to occasionally lob some shots off at 1400+ yards when you have the range.  Sometimes a base will make that possible.

I have a 20 moa base and a SS 5-20x on my .308.  I was at a precision rifle class and I was shooting 1500 yards and still had more elevation to go.  Most of the other shooters ran out of up around 1000 yards.  So for times like that, it is nice to have it.

All that being said.  A set of Talley light weight ring mounts will keep your loading port open unlike using a one piece mount.  If you are loading from the top, that is a nice option to have.  And with a SS scope you will have way more than you need even with a 0 moa mounting system for 99% of your shooting. 


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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

1000 yards, with 175s you will need 10 to 11.5ish mils depending upon elevation and stuff.  So with a scope with 40 mils available a 20 moa base is not needed. 

But if you plan on shooting longer distances often a slanted base will keep your erector more centered in the scope tube at those distances.  Supposedly you will get the best scope performance from a scope if it is centered.  Also if you plan on getting a different scope in the future that may not have the adjustment range a SS has you may want that 20 moa base now so you don't have to buy twice.  Plus it is just fun to occasionally lob some shots off at 1400+ yards when you have the range.  Sometimes a base will make that possible.

I have a 20 moa base and a SS 5-20x on my .308.  I was at a precision rifle class and I was shooting 1500 yards and still had more elevation to go.  Most of the other shooters ran out of up around 1000 yards.  So for times like that, it is nice to have it.

All that being said.  A set of Talley light weight ring mounts will keep your loading port open unlike using a one piece mount.  If you are loading from the top, that is a nice option to have.  And with a SS scope you will have way more than you need even with a 0 moa mounting system for 99% of your shooting. 

Some really solid advise from Super Tool, once again. 

Talley's also give you better access to the loading/ejection port, if you don't have a DM system as well.

 
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Thankyou guys great info.
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Forgive me if my question(s) seem silly but want to learn & educate myself. In regards to the reticle in the SWFA 3-15x42 scope info posted which show the horizontal & vertical lines which help in range estimation, is this reticle still offered by SWFA on their current models? Or is this reticle from a discontinued model? Is there a reticle that SWFA offers that would have the same ranging capabilities? Or, could someone please explain how to use the MOA-QUAD reticle to estimate range (height/width) of human, deer & hogs? Thank you.
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I just checked SWFA's website and only see the mil quad and MOA quad reticles for the 3-15X. I cannot say for certain they discontinued that reticle, but it doesn't appear on their website at this time.

As for use of a mil- or MOA reticle, there are resources online that can assist. The short answer is it takes a bit of math, and you need to know the size of the object you are ranging. This is what makes range estimation so difficult in nature. SO long as you aren't ranging at distant targets, is works out okay.

Google something like "ranging with a mil dot reticle." Or get a mil dot master, it is useful for not messing up the math. To do this on the fly, you'll need a calculator or a table. The mil dot master is slide-rule kinda for relative ease of use.
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I have some scopes you could in theory range with.

I don't bother. I bought rangefinder binos as then I can look at something I might want to / not want to shoot without actually pointing a rifle at it.

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Originally posted by bowdad7 bowdad7 wrote:

Forgive me if my question(s) seem silly but want to learn & educate myself. In regards to the reticle in the SWFA 3-15x42 scope info posted which show the horizontal & vertical lines which help in range estimation, is this reticle still offered by SWFA on their current models? Or is this reticle from a discontinued model? Is there a reticle that SWFA offers that would have the same ranging capabilities? Or, could someone please explain how to use the MOA-QUAD reticle to estimate range (height/width) of human, deer & hogs? Thank you.


I would make one follow-on point: learning marksmanship basics and perfecting them takes time and effort. Additionally, learning range estimation and calculation takes time, practice, and continued effort (it is a very perishable skill.) I recommend you undertake one and not both at the same time. Additionally, a laser rangefinder or other more accurate ranging capability is needed to check your work. Without that, everything is right when you hit and wrong when you miss - and that is a frustrating way to do it.
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Originally posted by bowdad7 bowdad7 wrote:

Forgive me if my question(s) seem silly but want to learn & educate myself. In regards to the reticle in the SWFA 3-15x42 scope info posted which show the horizontal & vertical lines which help in range estimation, is this reticle still offered by SWFA on their current models? Or is this reticle from a discontinued model? Is there a reticle that SWFA offers that would have the same ranging capabilities? Or, could someone please explain how to use the MOA-QUAD reticle to estimate range (height/width) of human, deer & hogs? Thank you.


I would make one follow-on point: learning marksmanship basics and perfecting them takes time and effort. Additionally, learning range estimation and calculation takes time, practice, and continued effort (it is a very perishable skill.) I recommend you undertake one and not both at the same time. Additionally, a laser rangefinder or other more accurate ranging capability is needed to check your work. Without that, everything is right when you hit and wrong when you miss - and that is a frustrating way to do it.

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