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(first I have to say/write that english is not my native language and I apologize in advance for all and any misspelled parts in my posts.)

I just aquired a Super Sniper 10x42 m Tactical.

My question is: Where can I get a manual for it? Since I bought it used there was no manual included.

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An operation manual for the scope so that I dont have to spam this great forum whenever I have a question.

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Originally posted by JHoel JHoel wrote:

An operation manual for the scope so that I dont have to spam this great forum whenever I have a question.

Thanks in advance

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The Mods nor the forum membership would consider it "spamming" merely asking questions concerning the features or function of the SS rifle scope, my friend. It's what we do here. Wink
Most questions concerning the SS scopes have been asked and answered on this fine forum multiple times over the years and can be obtained by utilizing the forum search function. 

However, some spec questions you may have, might be answered by reading the SS website. 

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Originally posted by JHoel JHoel wrote:

My question is: Where can I get a manual for it?


Welcome!

The answer to your question is:  Nowhere.  There is no operator's nor technical manual for those scopes.  You simply have to ask someone if/when you don't know something.
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Well, there WAS a manual that came out with the SS, but the manual was still labeled by Tasco. My beloved 10x rear focus SS came with one. 

    
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I have a manual in front of me it came in English, French, Spanish, Italian, and German. Quite frankly the manual is not that helpful. Shocked   The scope is relatively simple. The top knob adjust up and down the side knob adjust left and right.  Depending on when the scope was made it will either be the older 1/4moa clicks or the newer  1/10 Mil clicks.  All of the ones with 1/10 mil clicks have the Mil Quad reticle which has lines not dots.   Some of the 10x models have a side focus on the left side which is parallax (focus) the rest have a ring around the back of the scope where one usually finds magnification adjustment on a variable power scope.  There is one other adjustment on the back of the scope which adjusts to your eye. To set that one look toward the sky and turn it until the crosshair looks very sharp looking away and looking back will help you to get it to its best adjustment point.   To initially zero the rifle once the scope is mounted set a cardboard box at 20 to 25 yds with a mark in the middle and shoot a hole to see how high or low the bullet impact is then adjust and try again. Once you are close move the target to 50 or 100 yds and  get it close there.  Select to either zero at 100 yds or 200 yds based on where you will shoot most often.   Run a balistic program so that you know what your bullet will do at different distances and practice at different distances.   These scopes have three hex screws on the Turret adjustments and to reset the Turret to Zero you loosen the screws pull up and then move to position and press down and re-tighten the screws.   http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmtraj-5.1.cgi
http://kentonindustries.com/custom-turrets/swfa  aftermarket turrets can be custom engraved to reflect the balistics of your specific cartridge, elevation etc.
 
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SWFA SS 16x42 Tactical 30mm Riflescope Mil-Dot SWFA SS 16x42 Tactical 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - SS16X42
  • Matte
  • Mil-Dot
  • 30mm
  • Rear Focus
  • OK for .50 cal
  • 1/4 MOA
$299.95 
SWFA SS 12x42 Tactical Riflescope SWFA SS 12x42 Tactical Riflescope
Stock # - SS12X42MQ
  • Matte Finish
  • Patented Mil-Quad Reticle
  • 30mm Tube
  • Rear Focus
  • OK for .50 cal
  • .10 Mrad
$299.95 
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Can anyone tell me how much elevation and windage the mil/mil version of the 10x42 ss $299 scope has. The only thing i can find is the review snipercentral reviewd stating that the moa version has which was 156 moa elevation. Can someone please clarify. The swfa website for total elevation and windage just says mil for each category.
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You can turn it all the way down then count the mils as you turn it to the top until it stops. Do the same with the side for total windage.

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How about the rear focus? 
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Introducing the latest additions to the SWFA SS scope line.
 
 
 
  • First, we will introduce the SWFA SS 3-15x42 MQDM SFP. On the outside it is almost identical to our existing SWFA SS 3-15x42 FFP. However, the reticle in this 3-15x42 is based off of the extremely popular 1-4x24 MQDM we released last year. Like its predecessor, this scope also has a reticle in the second focal plane which gives you better target acquisition on low magnification while maintaining its ability to range and provide aiming points at max magnification.   

 

  • It utilizes a Mil based reticle and has the ability to provide the shooter with accurate target distances utilizing the built in target ranging references. The ranging references can be used to range various objects in various sizes. You can range anything 72", 36", or 24" tall as well as any object 18" wide. This gives you the ability to range objects such as human silhouettes, IPSC silhouettes, deer, hogs, or even coyotes.

 

  • The exposed knobs have .1 Mil Adjustments per click and 5 Mils per revolution.

 

  • The power ring comes threaded for a throw lever, which is included. This gives you the ability to rapidly zoom in and out. 
 
Specs
Exit Pupil:                                 2.8mm - 11.8mm
Weight:                                     23.7 oz
Length:                                     13.5"
Field of View @ 100yds:           7.21 - 34.72 ft 
Field of View @ 100m:              2.4 - 10.6m  
Eye Relief (in):                          4.3
 - 3.9 
Diopter Compensation:            
-2 ~ +1 dpr 
Click Adjustment Value:            0.1 MRAD 
Adjustment Per Revoultion:       5 Mil
Total Elevation Adjustment:       36 Mils
 
Total Windage Adjustment:        36 Mils

Type of Reticle:                          Mil-Quad DM
Focal Plane:                               2nd 
Coating:                                      Fully Multi Coated 
Waterproof:                                Yes 
Fogproof:                                    Yes 
Shockproof:                                Yes
 
SWFA 3-15x42 MQDM SFP with Subtensions (Click to Zoom):
 
SWFA 3-15x42 MQDM SFP (Click to Zoom):
 
Aiming Points
Unlike the 1-4x24 we released last year this reticle in the new Second Focal Plane 3-15x42 has the ability, due to its higher magnification, to easily utilize not only the outer vertices of the diamond as aiming points but also the inner vertices, giving you five aiming points instead of three. 
 
These aiming points can be used for a wide variety of calibers. Below are some examples of how this could be utilized with a few different calibers.
 
Actual point of impact vs. point aim:
 
M852 7.62 168 Grain @ 2600 FPS
Aiming point 1: 200 yard ZERO
Aiming Point 2: 225 yards (.05 Mils High)
Aiming Point 3: 300 yards (.05 Mils Low)
Aiming Point 4: 350 yards (.05 Mils Low)
Aiming Point 5: 375 yards (.00 Mils Off)
 
M80 7.62 147 Grain @ 2850 FPS
Aiming point 1: 200 yard ZERO
Aiming Point 2: 225 yards (.05 Mils High)
Aiming Point 3: 300 yards (.05 Mils High)
Aiming Point 4: 375 yards (.05 Mils Low)
Aiming Point 5: 400 yards (.00 Mils Off)
 
M118LR 7.62 175 Grain @ 2600 FPS
Aiming point 1: 200 yard ZERO
Aiming Point 2: 225 yards (.05 Mils High)
Aiming Point 3: 300 yards (.05 Mils Low)
Aiming Point 4: 350 yards (.05 Mils Low)
Aiming Point 5: 375 yards (.00 Mils Off)
 
6.5 Grendel 123 Grain @ 2350 FPS
Aiming point 1: 100 yard ZERO
Aiming Point 2: 150 yards (.05 Mils Low)
Aiming Point 3: 200 yards (.05 Mils High)
Aiming Point 4: 250 yards (.05 Mils High)
Aiming Point 5: 300 yards (.20 Mils Low)
 
6.8 SPC 110 Grain @ 2550 FPS
Aiming Point 1: 100 yard ZERO
Aiming Point 2: 150 yards (.05 Mils Low)
Aiming Point 3: 200 yards (.05 Mils High)
Aiming Point 4: 250 yards (.05 Mils High)
Aiming Point 5: 300 yards (.20 Mils Low)
 
.204 Ruger 40 Grain @ 3900 FPS
Aiming point 1: 100 yard ZERO
Aiming Point 2: 200 yards (.05 Mils High)
Aiming Point 3: 325 yards (.05 Mils Low)
Aiming Point 4: 425 yards (.05 Mils Low)
Aiming Point 5: 450 yards (.00 Mils Off)
 
Target Ranging References
 
All of the target ranging references are calibrated for 72" height as well as 18" width.
 
To use it for 36" tall targets simply divide your range shown on the reticle by 2 and for 24" tall targets divide by 3. Examples are listed below.
 
The target below is a 72" tall silhouette of a human. Considering it is 72" tall and fits just between our horizontal crosshair and the 800 yard target ranging indicator this target is 800 yards away. 
 
 

The target below is a 72" tall silhouette of a human. Considering it is 72" tall and fits just between our horizontal crosshair and the 200 yard target ranging indicator this target is 200 yards away.

 

The target below is a 18" wide silhouette of a human. Considering it is 18" wide and fits just on top of our 300 yard target ranging indicator this target is 300 yards away.

 
 
The target below is a 36" shoulder height silhouette of a deer. Considering it is 36" tall and fits just between our horizontal crosshair and the 400 yard target ranging indicator this target is 200 yards away. It is 200 yards away and not 400 yards because we are using a target that is half the height of what the target ranging references are calibrated for, so we have to divide the given range by 2.  
 
 
The target below is a 36" shoulder height silhouette of a deer. Considering it is 36" tall and fits just between our horizontal crosshair and the 800 yard target ranging indicator this target is 400 yards away. It is 400 yards away and not 800 yards because we are using a target that is half the height of what the target ranging references are calibrated for, so we have to divide the given range by 2.
 
 
The target below is a 24" shoulder height silhouette of a hog. Considering it is 24" tall and fits just between our horizontal crosshair and the 300 yard target ranging indicator this target is 100 yards away. It is 100 yards away and not 300 yards because we are using a target that is one third the height of what the target ranging reference is calibrated for, so we have to divide the given range by 3.  
 
 
 
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[QUOTE=Stevel610] You can turn it all the way down then count the mils as you turn it to the top until it stops. Do the same with the side for total windage.

Thx for the reply but i dont own the scope. I was hoping to use the info as part of the decision making.
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Not sure you caught it in the previous post by Urimaginaryfrnd. But it is Total Elevation Adjustment:       36 Mils 
Total Windage Adjustment:        36 Mils

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To get mils from MOA, you just divide the MOA/3.438.  So your 156 would be 45 mils.

The specs listed on the website for SS scopes is usually very conservative.  All the SS scopes I have owned have had a lot more than listed in the specs. 
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I did see his post but he posted about a different model so i didnt want to assume that it was the same elevation and windage.

Not to be doubting thomas here but i also found an answer over at snipercentral.com the answer there was,42.8 mils of elevation. Mel over at sniper central did a review on the scope, the moa version thats where i got the 156 moa as a noob i didnt want to assume that the adjustments could be figured out with the formula manufactures have been known to manufacture products outside of what common sense would warrant. I also resourced the manufactures website but unfortunately they only say mil next to total windage adjustment and elevation adjustment.

Needless to say i am confused. It doesnt matter much however because 42.8 mil adjustment or 35 mil adjustment still covers my needs.

Thanks for yoir replies everyone.
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i appologize for all the mistakes in my last post. when responding to the thread on my phone i have no review of what was said before me so on top of spelling mistakes and information errors it looks like im stupid. 

again thanks for the replies. 
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ok all, i just got off the phone with SWFA, i figured if anyone would know they would know and the answer is.... wait for it... no one knows. I was told the only one who is going to know how much elevation the scope is going to have is me after i order it, i was told from scope to scope with the mil versions its going to vary how many mils of adjustment that particular scope is going to have. they told me that their intentions are to manufacture each scope with the maximum amount of elevation available and some could be more some could be less the only way to know is to order one and figure out how much my scope has, but that they would guarantee a minimum of 30mrad of adjustment. I asked if this was why they post the numbers for the moa scopes and not the mil scopes, i was told "yep." (thats a direct quote.) not exactly sure what to think about that. still a minimum of 30 mil adjustments is sufficient for my needs.

thought this would be of interest to everyone. 
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That has always been the case with SS scopes.  As I said in my post before, when they list a spec it is usually very conservative.  They often have much more.


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Originally posted by Rem .308 Rem .308 wrote:

i appologize for all the mistakes in my last post. when responding to the thread on my phone i have no review of what was said before me so on top of spelling mistakes and information errors it looks like im stupid. 

again thanks for the replies. 


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I have owned a lot of the SS scopes and while I have run out of adjustment on other brands of scopes I have never had that issue with an SS scope. I as much as anyone appreciate the importance of the question you asked so I tried to post what information was officially available hopeful that some of it might be of use. I will say that there are enough rotations of the turret that it is easily possible to get lost in the dial and suggest that once you establish you zero that you make a mark on the inner part to show the correct level of the Zero. This can be as simple as a piece of tape or a scratch from a knife or a marker pen.  One other thing that I think can be quite useful is ordering a set of Kenton Ind custom engraved turret knobs for the caliber and specific load that you settle into.
http://kentonindustries.com/custom-turrets/swfa http://kentonindustries.com/custom-turrets/swfa
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I do appreciate the info urimaginaryfrnd. I didnt understand what i was asking. Meaning i am too new to know i was reading over the information given to me. It wasnt until i got off the phone with skar at swfa that i understood all the info that was already given. Thanks for putting up wit it. I was too perplexed that no one had an answer now i know why. I still will be purchasing one.
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Would you still want to use a 20 moa base with a scope with so much adjustment?
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How far do you really anticipate shooting...the majority of your time? 
A .308 Win, I presume?  

With the least elevation I ever heard of on an SS scope, your going to get out to, (probably past) 1000 yards with a .308 and a 175gr bullet. There's member's here that do that regularly with their SS scopes. 

I think you might be getting wrapped around the axle on how much "up" your going to have. 
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