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I was in the same boat leaning toward the PST but now this!
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I realize this may be an extremely naive question but when would one use target turrets on a 1-4 scope? 
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Shots of various angles up or down, also wind shear correction.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jon A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April/20/2010 at 14:12
Originally posted by JimFromTN JimFromTN wrote:

I realize this may be an extremely naive question but when would one use target turrets on a 1-4 scope? 

When you need to hit something at 400-600 yds and a 1-4X scope is what's on your rifle.   You may not have much luck with small varmints, but for man-sized targets you'd be surprised how well a 4X can do.  
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Originally posted by Jon A Jon A wrote:

Originally posted by JimFromTN JimFromTN wrote:

I realize this may be an extremely naive question but when would one use target turrets on a 1-4 scope? 

When you need to hit something at 400-600 yds and a 1-4X scope is what's on your rifle.   You may not have much luck with small varmints, but for man-sized targets you'd be surprised how well a 4X can do.  
 
Especially one with a milradian based reticle and matching milradian based turrets.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Chris Farris Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April/20/2010 at 14:38
I realize you could also use the reticle to hold off, it is just two different ways to accomplish the same result.  Some people don't like to hold off and prefer to use the center of the reticle.  If you are shooting in a substained wind, it is nice to correct it with the turret and hold dead on then return it to zero when the wind dies down.
 
Same thing for elevation.  If you are going to be shooting multible times at the same range and don't want to remember how many mils down to hold or you don't have the time to count everytime it is much easier to dial it on the turret and just hold dead on, then return it to zero when your done.
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How much will this cost? Also any idea on a release date? I'm in the market for the 1-4X now, and if I knew round abouts how much this would cost, I think I would wait for it. Thanks much.
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I don't think pricing info is being yet made public.


I like the option of doping with the reticle and doping on the turrets, nice choice.  I tend to dope shots at the turret (unless it needs to be a particularly quick and not necessarily precise shot.)

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My only question now is, what am I gonna do with my ACOG when the new SS comes out. And no you (who ever you are) can't have it.
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Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!ShockedLynn, I have a great spot to put the ACOG, I will send you pics of it to at Christmas.. It will be like Visitation Rights,,, sorta kinda!
 
Hmmmmm, I do have to say you guys make this new SS 1x4 sound pretty interestingSmileand you are the professionals, not I. So I may just end up with one as well...
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My only concern with the targets style turrets on such a low power scope is they may be in the way of mounting a micro dot. We need pic of it from the side with the ruler. :)
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Why do you need a micro dot site on a scope that is true 1X?

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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Why do you need a micro dot site on a scope that is true 1X?

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In Graysteel's defense: If shooting a match where there are both long range and up close targets and time is the factor, a micro dot could be a plus.
I think Chris had real world conditions in mind for this scope, so I don't think a micro dot was considered. 
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Yea, could be.

Our soldiers and Marines in the sand box probably don't want or care about a dot backup (I didn't), but it might be doable.  Hell, if nothing else, get the mount with Picatinney tops on the rings, problem: solved!
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Good suggestion RC!
You could also use one of the offset picateny mounts for the mcro dot.  


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The whole idea behind a true 1-4X is negating the need for a microdot.  With the new reticle I believe this scope will do a very good job of that on 1X. 

If planning to use an offset microdot, you might as well get a 2-7X or 3-9X scope.
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Not sure what the the poster has in mind but there are some 3-gun and rifle competitions that require short and long shots in a short period of time.  In this case you would need a microdot and a 4x ready all the time as there is not time to adjust a scope between targets while running and reloading.
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I thought that's what cat-tails were for?    Big Grin    No, I don't doubt you, I was just under the impression the offset micro-dot was more commonly used by those without good true 1X's such as the shortdot, etc.
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