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I'm in the market for a new hunting rifle going with either a 7mm-08, 270 or 280.  Leaning towards either a 700 Remington, Browning, Winchester or possibly a Kimber.  Any suggestions on scopes to fit any of these rifles would be greatly appreciated.  Shot would most likely be 50-300 yards.  I currently have a 3.5 x 10 x 42 VXIII on my .243 Remington Varmit rifle.  Just looking at adding another rifle to my collection.  Would you go with another 42mm or step up to a 50mm?  Hunting whitetail deer, varmits in the SE US.
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I'd get a Z3 3-10 X42 Swarovski. Yippee
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Originally posted by bugsNbows bugsNbows wrote:

I'd get a Z3 3-10 X42 Swarovski. Yippee
I'd have to agree for the stated purpose its a good fit with the best glass.
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what price range you looking at?
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If price is no object, I would agree with svt and bugs.  Hard to beat Swarovski.
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Just got a Swarovski Z3 3-9x36 from SWFA. Great little scope, haven't put it through the paces yet but I'm sure it will not disappoint, she sure is pretty!Love
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+1 on the Swaro Z3 3-9x36. Right now they are on sale for $748.95. Which is a steal.

http://swfa.com/Swarovski-3-9x36-Z3-Riflescope-P40812.aspx

My next choice would be if the Swaro is too much money would be a Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40 for $400.

http://swfa.com/Zeiss-3-9x40-Conquest-Rifle-Scope-P608.aspx
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When does the Swaro Z3 sale end?  Is it over at the end of the month?
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No idea. I would contact SWFA and ask them. They are the sponsors of this site.

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$2k range...SwaroZ6I 1.7-10x42 or Leica ER 2.5-10x42
 
$1k range...Swaro Z3 as above or Trijicon 3-9x40
 
$500 range...Minox ZA 3 -9x40 or Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40
 
$300 range...SWFA SS10x
 
$170 range...Vortex Viper 2-7x32
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Originally posted by stickbow46 stickbow46 wrote:

$2k range...SwaroZ6I 1.7-10x42 or Leica ER 2.5-10x42
 
$1k range...Swaro Z3 as above or Trijicon 3-9x40
 
$500 range...Minox ZA 3 -9x40 or Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40
 
$300 range...SWFA SS10x
 
$170 range...Vortex Viper 2-7x32
 
That's an excellent list!  The only thing I would really add is Zeiss Victory 2.5-10X42/50 in the $2k range category, and ya got 'er pretty much whooped!
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For me I think I would have a hard time with the FOV with a 10x at 50yds or even at 100yds for whitetails. But I could see a SS6X. But that is just me.
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Originally posted by stickbow46 stickbow46 wrote:

$2k range...SwaroZ6I 1.7-10x42 or Leica ER 2.5-10x42
 
$1k range...Swaro Z3 as above or Trijicon 3-9x40
 
$500 range...Minox ZA 3 -9x40 or Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40
 
$300 range...SWFA SS10x
 
$170 range...Vortex Viper 2-7x32


Great list!  I would also add a Diavari to the top tier.  As a hunting scope list, I would take out the 10x SS, and put in a 6x SS. Then ... Perfect!


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Thanks for the input guys.  I think I am going with the Z3 either in 36mm or 42mm depending on which one I can get the best deal on.  birdhunter66


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MY personal rating in this order:
 
Zeiss Victory series
Swaro Z-series
Zeiss conquest
Leupold VX-3 or VX-II
Nikon monarch series
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Originally posted by 300grains 300grains wrote:

MY personal rating in this order:
 
Zeiss Victory series
Swaro Z-series
Zeiss conquest
Leupold VX-3 or VX-II
Nikon monarch series

you would put a vxII ahead of a new nikon monarch? i dont think so.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

Originally posted by 300grains 300grains wrote:

MY personal rating in this order:
 
Zeiss Victory series
Swaro Z-series
Zeiss conquest
Leupold VX-3 or VX-II
Nikon monarch series

you would put a vxII ahead of a new nikon monarch? i dont think so.
 
After looking through both scopes, comparing prices and performance/features, I think that I would also rate the Elite 4200 above the Monarch.
 
I can't speak to the new Elite Series which incorporates the 3200s and the 4200s into one series, but if they are the "best of both worlds" and give 4200 performance, I would take one over a Monarch for the Rainguard alone. 
 
Their glass and overall appearances are pretty comparable to one another, but the Monarchs are a good bit more expensive and I just can't justify the extra coin to buy one over an Elite.
 
My $.02
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Originally posted by EchoWhiskeyOne EchoWhiskeyOne wrote:

Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

Originally posted by 300grains 300grains wrote:

MY personal rating in this order:
 
Zeiss Victory series
Swaro Z-series
Zeiss conquest
Leupold VX-3 or VX-II
Nikon monarch series

you would put a vxII ahead of a new nikon monarch? i dont think so.
 
After looking through both scopes, comparing prices and performance/features, I think that I would also rate the Elite 4200 above the Monarch.
 
I can't speak to the new Elite Series which incorporates the 3200s and the 4200s into one series, but if they are the "best of both worlds" and give 4200 performance, I would take one over a Monarch for the Rainguard alone. 
 
Their glass and overall appearances are pretty comparable to one another, but the Monarchs are a good bit more expensive and I just can't justify the extra coin to buy one over an Elite.
 
My $.02

if i didnt have a 4200 myself, and didnt know how bloody tough they are im not sure i would buy one. after hearing the recent slip in bushnell's cs dept. i would probably steer clear of them and nikon both. since i do have a 4200, and its been in service on my rifles both heavy hitters and standards i aint scared to put it on anything i would take in the field. with that said, to hell with the cs dept, you would have to throw that scope off a tall giraffe's head to break it. i think rainguard is priceless, and wish zeiss would use loutec on the conquests.

i would still take a monarch over a vxII though, the glass in the monarch is better than the vxII.
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Originally posted by bird_hunter66 bird_hunter66 wrote:

Thanks for the input guys.  I think I am going with the Z3 either in 36mm or 42mm depending on which one I can get the best deal on.  birdhunter66



Excellent choice.... get to 50 posts then post a picture of your set-up!
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