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I currenty use a 2.5-10X50 Victory HT #60 ret on my deer gun and I´m happy with it but i feel I might be a little more confortable with more magnification on the higher end. 
I´m tempted to sell the Victory and get a 3-18X50 BT Z6 or the 5-30X50 BT Z6. I just don´t know if light transmission on the Z6 is as good as the Victory HT. It is a major concern to me because I´ve missed 2-3 great bucks in the past because they came out in the last minutes of the day and couldn´t make the shot. Last season I was comparing side by side my wife´s Z3 to my Victory and the Victory had a slight advantage on those last 5-10 minutes of the day. 
With a good Full Moon light, the Victory HT surprises me. Never had the chance to try a Z6 on the field in hunting conditions so that´s the only thing stoping me from selling the Zeiss and getting the swaro.
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The only way to know for sure is to compare the Z6 with your Victory HT. I have a feeling the HT will be slightly brighter.
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at what distance (in low light) are you feeling the need for more magnification and what are you looking to see better?  


i.e., antlers at 300 yard yards at 30 after sundown?
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Given that this is a deer rifle, I'd keep your Zeiss 2.5-10X50 HT. The Z6 scopes are really nice, but your HT is hard to beat for low light performance, and from my experience hunting deer every season for the past 35 years, I've yet to see a real world deer hunting scenario where 10X wasn't enough top end magnification.
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Given that this is a deer rifle, I'd keep your Zeiss 2.5-10X50 HT. The Z6 scopes are really nice, but your HT is hard to beat for low light performance, and from my experience hunting deer every season for the past 35 years, I've yet to see a real world deer hunting scenario where 10X wasn't enough top end magnification.


Gotta agree.  To further confuse the issue, throw a Meopta R2 in the mix.....supreme stuff! 
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Swaro Z6 is one hell of a fine scope but the Leupold VX6 is good as well.
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Given that this is a deer rifle, I'd keep your Zeiss 2.5-10X50 HT. The Z6 scopes are really nice, but your HT is hard to beat for low light performance, and from my experience hunting deer every season for the past 35 years, I've yet to see a real world deer hunting scenario where 10X wasn't enough top end magnification.

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The Zeiss Victory HT 2.5-10X50 HT #60 is the brightest, sharpest scope I've ever looked through. I'm going to get one in 1.5-6x42 #60 reticle and it'll cost me a lot more than you guys can buy one for in the U.S. I deer hunt all year round and 6x is plenty magnification for me. Some of the higher mag scopes completely ruin the balance of a fine deer rifle.


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Originally posted by 10-Ring 10-Ring wrote:

Some of the higher mag scopes completely ruin the balance of a fine deer rifle.



I couldn't agree more!

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the brightest, sharpest scope I've ever looked through was the S/B PM2 12-50x56..on full mag this scope was the best out off all the other scopes we viewed with similar mag .and price range.Excellent and all the big names were there at the british shooting showBig Smile
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Might also want to take a look at the Leicas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I just bought an ER 2.5-10x42 Leica and mounted it on a Model 70 Winchester.  It is a very balanced, very optically competent scope.  Comparing it to my Zeiss scopes, Swaro, Kahles scopes and Leupold's, it is very compact, optically equal to any other scope that  have and looks like it belongs on a hunting rifle.  Leica also makes a 3.5-14x42 scope as well which is not much bigger than the 2.5-10x42.
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Originally posted by 10-Ring 10-Ring wrote:

Some of the higher mag scopes completely ruin the balance of a fine deer rifle.



I couldn't agree more!

 
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It is nice to see this mentioned for a change. It seems this aspect has been lost recently. The big scopes are great where the balance of the rifle allows, such as with full length actions and rifles. Some of the light and trim rifles just get ruined by the Hubble telescopes on top of them.
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Originally posted by Oldtrader3 Oldtrader3 wrote:

I just bought an ER 2.5-10x42 Leica and mounted it on a Model 70 Winchester.  It is a very balanced, very optically competent scope.  Comparing it to my Zeiss scopes, Swaro, Kahles scopes and Leupold's, it is very compact, optically equal to any other scope that  have and looks like it belongs on a hunting rifle.  Leica also makes a 3.5-14x42 scope as well which is not much bigger than the 2.5-10x42.

Oldtrader3, I have that exact same scope and you're right the optics are 1st class. The scope is very well made. The duplex reticle in mine has well proportioned outer bars but it has very fine crosshairs - too fine. Excellent in daylight in the open, however, somewhat hard to pick up under the forest canopy. The duplex reticle in my Leupold VX-6 2-12 is the best I've ever used for twilight and bush hunting and the optics are very, very close to the Leica.




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I would think your current scope would be all you need. If you can't see him with that scope it is probably after legal shooting time :D                    
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