OpticsTalk by SWFA, Inc. Homepage SWFA     SampleList.com
Forum Home Forum Home > Scopes > Rifle Scopes
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Swarovski Z5 and Z3
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Visit the SWFA.com site to check out our current specials.

Swarovski Z5 and Z3

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
Author
Message
brodeur272 View Drop Down
Optics Journeyman
Optics Journeyman
Avatar

Joined: September/23/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 609
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote brodeur272 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Swarovski Z5 and Z3
    Posted: May/11/2009 at 11:48
So Swarovski is coming out with a new Z5 and Z3 series.  The Z3 appears to be a rebadged AV series.  I would think that the PV/PH series are going to be discontinued to clear up room in the lines.  BTW, they are supposed to be 1" tubes...

Chris, any word on this?
Back to Top
mike650 View Drop Down
Optics God
Optics God
Avatar

Joined: May/14/2006
Location: West of Rockies
Status: Offline
Points: 14569
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mike650 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/11/2009 at 12:31
Originally posted by brodeur272 brodeur272 wrote:

So Swarovski is coming out with a new Z5 and Z3 series.  The Z3 appears to be a rebadged AV series.  I would think that the PV/PH series are going to be discontinued to clear up room in the lines.  BTW, they are supposed to be 1" tubes...

Chris, any word on this?


The PV/PH going to be 1" tubes too???
“A hunt based only on trophies taken falls far short of what the ultimate goal should be.” – Fred Bear
Back to Top
Chris Farris II View Drop Down
TEAM SWFA - Admin
TEAM SWFA - Admin
Avatar
MODERATOR

Joined: August/13/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3196
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Chris Farris II Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/11/2009 at 12:47
One day your life will flash before your eyes; Make sure it's worth watching.
Back to Top
RifleDude View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar
EVIL OPPRESSOR

Joined: October/13/2006
Location: Texas
Status: Offline
Points: 16337
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RifleDude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/11/2009 at 13:32
Interesting...
 
Any word on whether these Z5 & Z3 scopes will have the coil spring erector support of the PH/PV/Z6 series, or if they'll have the traditional leaf springs of the AV?
Ted


Money can't buy happiness... but it's much more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle.
Back to Top
JF4545 View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: March/31/2009
Location: Washington
Status: Offline
Points: 2753
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JF4545 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/11/2009 at 13:48
Wow! i tried really hard to buy a used 4X12x50 BR..Actually it was still new and never been mounted that another guy bought. He wanted 900.00 for it but I offered him less ,, so the deal never happened.. Im really glad to because part of me did not want to deal with the 50mm objective and all that goes with it.
Im so glad tp hear of these new Swaros. Im going to buy the 3.5x18x44 Z5 I may even go with the ballistic turret!!! The Z6 I decided ,,,actually my wife hepled me decide it was to damn much money for the Z6!! The Z5 I can do though, I wonder when they will be ready?

JF
Back to Top
JF4545 View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: March/31/2009
Location: Washington
Status: Offline
Points: 2753
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JF4545 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/11/2009 at 13:52
3.5x18x44 You cannot get much more versatile then that. This is perfect in my book.
Back to Top
mike650 View Drop Down
Optics God
Optics God
Avatar

Joined: May/14/2006
Location: West of Rockies
Status: Offline
Points: 14569
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mike650 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/11/2009 at 14:12
I see some new reticle choices which maybe a good thing. Swaro's reticles in the past were very limited.
“A hunt based only on trophies taken falls far short of what the ultimate goal should be.” – Fred Bear
Back to Top
mike650 View Drop Down
Optics God
Optics God
Avatar

Joined: May/14/2006
Location: West of Rockies
Status: Offline
Points: 14569
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mike650 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/11/2009 at 14:15
Great!! Swaro's webs site shows zip. Roll Eyes

I wonder what the 4a BRX retcile look like??





Edited by mike650 - May/11/2009 at 14:16
“A hunt based only on trophies taken falls far short of what the ultimate goal should be.” – Fred Bear
Back to Top
JF4545 View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: March/31/2009
Location: Washington
Status: Offline
Points: 2753
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JF4545 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/11/2009 at 14:53
Again Im so glad I did not buy the 4x12x50 American yesterday..Yes the new choices are Great I agree! Well we shall find out about the new 4a BRX, I hope they come out soon. I just sent a 3x10x42 American back to Swaro to a have the BR installed. Kinds stupid on my part I have another 170.00 into the scope now, I could have bought it with the BR already on it. Oh well!
Back to Top
JF4545 View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: March/31/2009
Location: Washington
Status: Offline
Points: 2753
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JF4545 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/11/2009 at 18:31
Hey Mike,
Are you on? If you were gonna buy a new Swaro and you only had two choices in reticles , would you want a ballistic reticle or a turret type?? Just curious

JF
Back to Top
Roy Finn View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar
Steiner Junkie

Joined: April/05/2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 4856
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Roy Finn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/11/2009 at 19:11
Taken from another site: The Z5 does have the 4 coil spring system like the Z6

Swarovski Z5

Features
 1 inch rifle scope with 5x zoom for even more flexibility
 Rugged, lightweight alloy main tube finished with a tough anodized scratch resistant
surface
 Third turret position allows for easy access for parallax adjustment
 Long eye relief of 3.74 in (95 mm) allows for worry free concentration on the shot
 Patented SWAROVSKI OPTIK 4-point coil spring system for absolute certainty of
hitting your target - shot after shot
 Rectangular adjustment range allows greater elevation adjustment with the greatest
possible precision
 66% greater field of view range and greater magnification range for greater overview
and for more flexibility
 Slim, stylish design provides enough space for easy mounting
 Particularly versatile and suitable for various types of hunting due to its high
magnification and its large field of view
 Maximum image quality due to completely innovative optic design
 Reticle in the second image plane: The target observed is magnified while the size of
the reticle remains the same
 Rapid diopter adjustment
 Microstructure surface to prevent residual reflections inside the tube for bright, highcontrast
images, even in intense light
 Waterproof to 13 ft even with turret caps removed



Swarovski Z3

Features
 1 inch rifle scope with 3x zoom
 The newly designed slim construction allows it to be mounted close to the barrel and
is suitable for all hunting firearms
 Improved anti-reflective lens coatings deliver the highest optical performance in all
light conditions
 Large, rugged turrets with distinctive adjustable clicks for accurate adjustments
 The wide power ring allows quick adjustment of entire magnification range
 Wide range of adjustment for easy sighting in
 Large field of view
 Centered reticle in the second image plane
 Waterproof to 13 ft even with turret caps removed
 Rapid diopter adjustment
 Microstructure surface to prevent residual reflections inside the tube for bright, highcontrast
images, even in intense light
 Light weight
 All aluminum outer parts are anodized to be scratch-resistant

New BRX Reticle:
Features
 Simply designed for long range shooting and takes the guesswork out of how high to
hold over a game animal or target by utilizing the marker bars or dots below the main
horizontal crosshair
 Compensates for wind drift by use of the wind posts or ends of the marker bars for
aiming (based on 10 mph crosswind)
 Eliminates the need for making turret adjustments to your rifle scope
 Includes SWAROVSKI OPTIK easy to read decals
 Online Ballistic Calculator at http://WWW.SWAROVSKIOPTIK.COM
 200 yard zero

New Z6i 5-30x50:
Key Features
 HD optics (High Definition) added for superior performance at highest magnifications
 3rd turret parallax adjustment
 Centered reticle in the second image plane. The target observed is magnified. The
size of the reticle remains the same
 Microstructure grooves for precisely defined ribbing prevent residual reflections
inside the tube for bright, high-contrast images, even in intense light
 Increased eye relief of 3.74” for protection against recoil injuries
 Rugged light alloy main tube
 Waterproof to a depth of up to 13 ft (0.4 bar). Nitrogen purged.
 Extra wide field of view
 4 coil spring system ensures highly accurate, repeatable click adjustments, even with
heavy recoiling firearms
 Finger adjustable point of impact adjustments (clicks) – no tools necessary
Patented SWAROVSKI OPTIK 4-point coil spring system for absolute certainty of Patented SWAROVSKI OPTIK 4-point coil spring system

Edited by Roy Finn - May/11/2009 at 19:21
Back to Top
mike650 View Drop Down
Optics God
Optics God
Avatar

Joined: May/14/2006
Location: West of Rockies
Status: Offline
Points: 14569
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mike650 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/11/2009 at 19:43
Originally posted by JF4545 JF4545 wrote:

Hey Mike,
Are you on? If you were gonna buy a new Swaro and you only had two choices in reticles , would you want a ballistic reticle or a turret type?? Just curious

JF


It depends on how your going to use the scope.

From a hunting perspective between those two choices..... I would probably lean toward the ballistic reticle. The reason is because it seems close to a 7a pattern (plus reference bars) which is a good reticle choice for low light conditions. I would think this would make the BR a very versitle tool for low light and LR. It also seems easier to use without having to make turrent adjustments in the field.

The Ballistic turret is a great idea but the reticle is a plex. The Swaro plex reminds me of the Leupold thin duplex which I like but many don't because it can be hard to see in certain hunting conditions.

Hope that helps. Smile

Rancid Coolaid has a BR reticle and he really likes it, maybe PM him too. Thunbs Up





Edited by mike650 - May/11/2009 at 20:10
“A hunt based only on trophies taken falls far short of what the ultimate goal should be.” – Fred Bear
Back to Top
mike650 View Drop Down
Optics God
Optics God
Avatar

Joined: May/14/2006
Location: West of Rockies
Status: Offline
Points: 14569
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mike650 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/11/2009 at 19:44
Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

Taken from another site: The Z5 does have the 4 coil spring system like the Z6



Thanks Roy!!!  Thunbs Up





Edited by mike650 - May/11/2009 at 19:44
“A hunt based only on trophies taken falls far short of what the ultimate goal should be.” – Fred Bear
Back to Top
Rancid Coolaid View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar

Joined: January/19/2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 9318
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rancid Coolaid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/11/2009 at 19:50
If you have a chance to buy the Swaro BR, I recommend it (so long as it ain't a primarily low-light scope.)

It is very clear, very well defined, the glass is great, and the aiming points have enough distance to be distinct but not so much as to be useless inside 500 yards.


I have the 3-10 and really, really like it.  The scope rides on my .270 deer gun and it has been dead nutz every shot thus far (including the one after my son dropped it, scope down, on a concrete floor.)

I saw a freind's recently (bought somewhere other than SWFA) and his had no bullet- and caliber-specific stickers; mine came with stickers and the 150-gr .270 is within an inch of dead-on out to 400 yards- maybe further.


I like their reticle, get one if you can, great reticle.
Freedom is something you take.
Respect is something you earn.
Equality is something you whine about not being given.
Back to Top
JF4545 View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: March/31/2009
Location: Washington
Status: Offline
Points: 2753
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JF4545 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/11/2009 at 23:23
Wow,Im really glad I found this web site! You guys are great, I had no idea how much there is to know about optics (scopes) and alot of the other information that goes with this site. Ive hunted for may years in the past, then stopped about 5 years ago due to health.. Im now taking up the hobby/sport again and this site is going to put a whole new spin on it... I cannot wait to get one of these newer Swaros to put on my 270 wsm Kimber Super America...Yes I will take a pic of it, Ineed to figure out how to get a pic on here.. I cannot even use the emoticons, Im not sure why?

Thanks Again Guys!!

JF    
Back to Top
RifleDude View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar
EVIL OPPRESSOR

Joined: October/13/2006
Location: Texas
Status: Offline
Points: 16337
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RifleDude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/12/2009 at 09:13
Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

Taken from another site: The Z5 does have the 4 coil spring system like the Z6
 
Thunbs Up That's good to know!  These sound like very intriguing scopes!
 
Any word on whether these new scopes have Swaro's "Easy Clean," or whatever they are calling their version of the hydrophobic lens coatings?  If they don't, they should!
 
I also wonder if they'll eventually offer illuminated versions of the Z5, using the "High Grid" system from the PH?
Ted


Money can't buy happiness... but it's much more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle.
Back to Top
Rancid Coolaid View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar

Joined: January/19/2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 9318
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rancid Coolaid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/12/2009 at 12:11
Originally posted by JF4545 JF4545 wrote:

Wow,Im really glad I found this web site! You guys are great, I had no idea how much there is to know about optics (scopes) and alot of the other information that goes with this site. Ive hunted for may years in the past, then stopped about 5 years ago due to health.. Im now taking up the hobby/sport again and this site is going to put a whole new spin on it... I cannot wait to get one of these newer Swaros to put on my 270 wsm Kimber Super America...Yes I will take a pic of it, Ineed to figure out how to get a pic on here.. I cannot even use the emoticons, Im not sure why?

Thanks Again Guys!!

JF    



Be advised, you hang out here too long, the hobby gets expensive.
Freedom is something you take.
Respect is something you earn.
Equality is something you whine about not being given.
Back to Top
JF4545 View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: March/31/2009
Location: Washington
Status: Offline
Points: 2753
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JF4545 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/12/2009 at 13:06
Yeah I know,Im already thinking about selling a 7mm Bar rifle so I can buy a another new rifle for long distance work, LOL!,, Hey do you have any idea why the emoticons option are not working for me, I must have something shut off??

JF
Back to Top
mike650 View Drop Down
Optics God
Optics God
Avatar

Joined: May/14/2006
Location: West of Rockies
Status: Offline
Points: 14569
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mike650 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/12/2009 at 13:10
Originally posted by JF4545 JF4545 wrote:

Yeah I know,Im already thinking about selling a 7mm Bar rifle so I can buy a another new rifle for long distance work, LOL!,, Hey do you have any idea why the emoticons option are not working for me, I must have something shut off??

JF


4 more posts and your emoticons should be working..at least your edit will!! Big Smile
“A hunt based only on trophies taken falls far short of what the ultimate goal should be.” – Fred Bear
Back to Top
JF4545 View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: March/31/2009
Location: Washington
Status: Offline
Points: 2753
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JF4545 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/12/2009 at 14:13
OHHHH! Guess I never read the fine print, wherever that might be..

Thanks! Mike

So do we know when these new Swaros will be available yet? Im putting in for a Buck tag today, drawing is coming up soon. I would not mind having one mounted on my Kimber by Deer Season..
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.01
Copyright ©2001-2018 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.273 seconds.