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There's a Swarovski 3-12x50 Professional Hunter Rifle Scope on the sample list.  I can't find this scope on other web sites for more information.  Where does it fit in with their current lineup?  What's it's background?  Is this an older scope that's no longer in production?  Thanks
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The PH was a scope built exclusively for the U.S. market and has been discontinued.  They were good scopes, Swarovski builds "good" at the least, but not the highest quality in the Swarovski inventory.  They are "journeyman" scopes, not "alpha".  Still quality.


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http://www.opticstalk.com/swarovski-professional-hunter-versus-z6_topic18041.html

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The PH scopes were their top of the line scopes until the Z6 series came out.  Then they were discontinued.  It has a 30 mm tube and they are very good scopes.  I have several and find them comparable to my Zeiss Victory, Kahles Helia C/CSX/CBX and my Leica ERs.  Look around on other sites/auctions.  You may find a better price.  The AV series was their 1" tube scope that was made for the American market.    It has a 30 mm tube.  I have a pdf file of the manual I can send you if you send me your email address.  
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I love the PH and AV series scopes, have used both, still have 2 AVs that I love and will probably never get rid of.
I can't say regarding the value of the one on the sample list, but the older Swaros, in my opinion, give up very little to the newest scopes, in glass quality.  They sometimes lack features that are becoming standard, but for a hunting scope where a complicated reticle isn't needed, they are great scopes.
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Originally posted by brodeur272 brodeur272 wrote:

The PH scopes were their top of the line scopes until the Z6 series came out.  Then they were discontinued.  It has a 30 mm tube and they are very good scopes.  I have several and find them comparable to my Zeiss Victory, Kahles Helia C/CSX/CBX and my Leica ERs.  Look around on other sites/auctions.  You may find a better price.  The AV series was their 1" tube scope that was made for the American market.    It has a 30 mm tube.  I have a pdf file of the manual I can send you if you send me your email address.  

Absolutely correct.  I was reading PH and thinking AV... funny, I think I actually corrected someone a couple of years ago for exactly the same thing. 

The PH scope is the side by side optical equivalent of the top of the optics chain... and is unfortunate that it is still not more available.  I almost purchased a Professional Hunter a year or so ago, got caught up in a work thing and let the auction slip away from me.  It sold for a ridiculously low price. 

Sorry about my lapse there, just one of those things where the words connect with the wrong vision. 

The PH would be a fine addition for any hunting firearm.  Actually, the AV still would as well.  It was a very nice scope, as I said.  Still a great hunting scope well worth consideration if one can be found.  

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The PH series (also called "PV" series) was Swarovski's premium 30mm variable scope line until they introduced the Z6 series. For many years, the typical flagship 30mm European scope had 4:1 zoom ratio (for example 1-4X, 2.5-10X, 3-12X, etc.). The Swaro PH series is an example of 4:1 zoom.  When Swaro introduced the Z6 and later the Z5, they discontinued the PH series and changed the name of their AV series to "Z3" to fit their marketing strategy of giving the consumer a choice of 3:1, 5:1, and 6:1 zoom ratio. The current trend in rifle scopes is toward 5:1, 6:1, 6.5:1, and even higher zoom ratios. Zeiss just introduced the V8 series with 8:1 zoom, and March has 10:1 zoom scopes. Given the high zoom trend, the PH series represented dated technology and no longer had a legitimate niche in the Swaro lineup with the presence of the Z5 and Z6.

Despite the PH's "unimpressive" 4:1 zoom, it still has cutting edge optics comparable to Swaro's newest scopes. It just lacks zoom range, and (in illuminated models) Swaro's latest illumination technology.
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I have a PH and it really is the (very,very, close to my eyes) equal of my Zeiss Diavari. 1st Focal plane, whats not to like.

Do yourself a favour and buy it. You won't regret it.
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I remember reading when the Z6 scopes came out that some European writers considered the Z6 a step down in build integrity from the PH series.  I have a 4-12x50 AV Swaro and it gives up nothing to the newer scopes except magnification range.  I have been using this AV scope for 12 years and it still stacks up well against my Zeiss and Leica scopes.
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